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Hard to Justify Across-the-Board Federal Pay Raises
Heritage Foundation ^ | 2/15/2013 | James Sherk and Rudy Takala

Posted on 02/23/2013 1:34:37 PM PST by IbJensen

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The state of the economy, the irrational burdens on society, the lack of ethics, the counterproductive performance while ignorant to real solutions, justifies NO raises earned.

Pay for performance should be determined by the American people whose lives, nation and economy has been through the federal paper shredder. The people determine no pay raise as ongoing performance lays heavy contentions unfairly on the people. These loafers of the central socialist government are not worth a dime!

1 posted on 02/23/2013 1:34:46 PM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
Vote buying and purchasing support.
2 posted on 02/23/2013 1:41:38 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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The federal government should pay its employees about what they would make in comparable private-sector jobs . . . and I say that should include a NPV analysis of ALL future benefits, pensions etc. The effect of which would and should reduce their scandalous salaries to levels well below the private sector.

It is a crime that four of the five wealthiest counties in America surround the New Rome, to which all tribute flows.

3 posted on 02/23/2013 1:42:41 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: IbJensen
According to 2010 census figures four of the five richest...and seven of the ten richest...counties in the US are suburbs of one city.No,it's not New York,LA,San Francisco,Chicago,Dallas,Denver,Detroit,Atlanta or Philly.That's right,boys and girls...it's DC.A one industry town that produces *nothing* but paper...reports...charts and graphs...regulations.

And we wonder why this country's in such desperate trouble.

4 posted on 02/23/2013 1:42:46 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: IbJensen

I think we should lay them all off and put them on unemployment, Pelosi says unemployment checks stimulate the economy.


5 posted on 02/23/2013 1:48:12 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: IbJensen

Big government greed.


6 posted on 02/23/2013 1:50:41 PM PST by spudville
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This is one of the reasons why contracting out services by a government agency is vastly more cost-efficient than maintaining a civil service staff for a particular function. The contract employees are only used for the specific purpose for which the contract was drawn up, and once the terms of the contract are fulfilled, the cash flow stops.

Civil service just goes on and on eternally. And it has all kinds of attendent costs, whether the civil servants are productively engaged or not.


7 posted on 02/23/2013 1:54:38 PM PST by alloysteel (What is all too obvious, is not obvious to all. Until it is too late to reverse course.)
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And Panetta wants to cut Military pay!
What a freakin joke this Government is!
Over half of those paper pushers should be terminated now!
You want to know where 0’s voter base comes from there it is!
This is alignment for 2016!


8 posted on 02/23/2013 1:55:30 PM PST by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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Give them an across-the-board 3% pay raise in exchange for a 10% RIF and an end to their current pension plan. Lock in what they’ve already accrued and replace it with a 401(k) going forward.


9 posted on 02/23/2013 1:59:01 PM PST by hometoroost
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Just to be clear THIS pay freze is really a joke as the fact cat fed workers still get longevity raises, just for being employed.And there are longevity increases nearly every year at first and then every 2 years so NO ONE who has stayed employed by the Feds has missed a pay or “ step” increase.

I think a pay freeze should be what it says it is. a freeze at whatever pay they are getting now.


10 posted on 02/23/2013 2:00:09 PM PST by RWGinger
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Stupid bug in the browser ping/apology:

Thanks IbJensen.


11 posted on 02/23/2013 2:00:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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Privatize the bureaucracy and let the market determine the pay scale. Keep repeating: Big greedy government.
12 posted on 02/23/2013 2:03:03 PM PST by spudville
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Pay for performance should be determined by the American people

Indeed. I should have a say in the salary and benefits of anyone who works for me.

13 posted on 02/23/2013 2:14:49 PM PST by PeevedPatriot
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There are civilian workers overseas that are not taxed on their first 100K, but they do not pay US taxes, and that is why. They pay German taxes which is considerably higher. However, they do make outrageous salaries, some of them. They definitely make a much higher salary than the average civilian worker stateside. However, we read last summer of state employees in CA that retired, making full pay, then after a month, went back to work receiving a higher salary and keeping the retirement pay, as well. Federal salaries are based on the highest salaries in the large cities. The unions see to that. So, it doesn’t matter where you live as a federal employee...in some cases.


14 posted on 02/23/2013 2:27:46 PM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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Hey that’s my line!!! Imperial Rome. :)

Washington DC, ripping off the provinces is how they live in luxury and are recession proof. This Imperial Gov’t is staffed with affirmative action incompetents of all stripes. Gay, female, black etc etc One of the major reasons DC is so sick and messed up and inflicts its sickness on us all


15 posted on 02/23/2013 2:39:48 PM PST by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing --- Joe Pine)
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To: RWGinger

This is just another fine example of the Heritage Foundation not knowing what they are talking about and only cherry picking the facts. Just another egghead think tank bunching all Federal Salaries into a common bucket, and calculating an average to make the results support their cause. When I started working for the DoD 24yrs ago, scientists and engineers had a separate GS pay scale. During the Clinton administration that changed and all the “non- technical” personnel were raised up to the scientist/engineer scale. At the time that was approx. a $6K/yr raise. Yesterday the DoD sent out a letter saying that this engineers week and we should honor the accomplishments of our engineers. There are approx. 100,000 engineers/scientists out of the total 800,000 DoD employee base. So in short do an actual comparison of salaries especially in the technical areas. Oh and the reason I don’t go to the outside world is, the contractors who work for DoD do not have the country’s best interest in heart only their company’s’ profit margin !!!


16 posted on 02/23/2013 2:46:30 PM PST by OHPatriot (I WILL NOT COMPLY !!!!!)
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Their pay as well as step increases shold be frozen!


17 posted on 02/23/2013 3:07:22 PM PST by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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Under this so called pay freeze do you still get step increases?


18 posted on 02/23/2013 3:43:23 PM PST by RWGinger
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To: OHPatriot

Under this so called pay freeze do you still get step increases?


19 posted on 02/23/2013 3:43:29 PM PST by RWGinger
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Actually, the Heritage Foundation, did take into consideration many of the factors you mentioned. The Foundation did not recommend reducing the salaries of skilled workers such as engineers but did recommend reducing the salaries of non-skilled workers. The Foundation also found that the wages of skilled workers were in-line with those in the private sector.


20 posted on 02/23/2013 3:47:21 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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