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Are Speculators to Blame for High Gasoline Prices?
Townhall.com ^ | February 23, 2013 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 02/23/2013 8:22:15 AM PST by Kaslin

Given a two-day plunge in crude futures, gasoline prices may have hit a temporary peak.

Nonetheless, consumers feel the pinch as pump prices have risen 34 straight days. For only the fifth time in history Gas prices topped $4 a gallon in District of Columbia.

Nationwide, the price of a gallon of regular gasoline climbed to $3.78 a gallon, up 47 cents in the past month, the AAA said.

In parts of California, Gasoline Prices Topped $5.00 on February 5. CNN Money has an interactive Gas Price map to check prices in your state.

Republicans Cry Foul

Yahoo!News reports Politicians Cry Foul Over High Gas Prices, Urge Action on Keystone XL

Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich., posted a "Keystone Clock " on his House Energy Committee's website Wednesday. The chairman states more than 1,615 days have passed since TransCanada's Keystone XL pipeline proposal sought approval. Joining Upton's call to build the pipeline is Speaker of the House John Boehner, R-Ohio. Executives at TransCanada have tried a different tactic to try to get approval from the Obama administration by claiming the pipeline won't affect global warming.

The tug of war between economics and environmentalism is escalating thanks to 34 straight days of rising gasoline prices.

Boehner posted a "Running on Empty " graphic Tuesday. The Speaker of the House complains gas prices have "soared $0.43 since Jan. 17" before remarking with his own Keystone clock, "How long will Americans have to wait?"

Boehner cites several sources, including nine Democratic senators, who want Obama to approve the project quickly. The pipeline may not see a decision until mid-June. Around 20,000 jobs and nearly a million barrels of oil a day are at stake for American oil companies.
Speculators to Blame?

The Salt Lake Tribune reports Spike in gasoline prices points to speculators

"Like locusts ravaging fertile crops, gasoline prices are soaring again and eating away at the purchasing power of ordinary Americans. And again, financial speculators appear to be a big part of the story."

Refinery Closures

In Recovery Killer? Gas Prices Barrel Toward $4 a Gallon CNN notes refinery closures.

Five dollar a gallon gas "is a real possibility" said John Kilduff, partner at Again Capital in New York. "This is partly being driven by the lost refinery capacity of about one million barrels per day...that's a lot."

Kilduff cited Hess's (HES) closure of a key refinery hub in Port Reading, New Jersey in January as a major factor that has sent gas on a tear. "Prices haven't looked back since," he said.

"It's one of about eight refineries that have announced closure. Now the East Coast is heavily reliant on [gas] imports when it used to be self-sufficient," Kilduff stated.
Speculation Nonsense

Refinery closures are one part of the puzzle. If speculators have driven up the price of oil (and that is debatable) it's not the speculators who are to blame, but rather the Fed.

By providing massive liquidity and negative real interest rates, the Fed encouraged speculation in the stock market, in junk bonds, and in commodities.

I believe there is a bubble in all of those areas. The Fed's intent was not to foster bubbles per se, but rather to stimulate housing and spur job creation. On the job creation front, the fed failed miserably, and bloated its balance sheet to over $3 trillion dollars in doing so.

Fed policies have destroyed those on fixed income for the benefit of the banks and wealthy, as I wrote on Wednesday in Reader Asks Me to Prove "Inflation Benefits the Wealthy" (At the Expense of Everyone Else).

The Bernanke Fed is so out of line that the House Subcommittee on Economic Growth Demands Answers From Bernanke on Fed's Exit Strategy; Fed Must Reply by March 5

Yet the media blames those evil speculators. Get real.


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To: bmwcyle
The real problem is inflation and printing money.

That's certainly contributing to the problem but it isn't the only cause. Here are a few more contributors that I've been reading about (by no means is this a complete list):


41 posted on 02/23/2013 10:06:09 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Kaslin

The main problem (as many others here have noted) is that the intrinsic value of petroleum is substantially greater than the intrinsic value of paper and ink.


42 posted on 02/23/2013 10:09:08 AM PST by Stosh
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To: Stosh

And of course those making federal policy feel in their hearts that anything that gets us out of our personal vehicles is a step in the right direction.


43 posted on 02/23/2013 10:12:34 AM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: annelizly
If it was actually only a supply and demand thing i don’t think we’d see this daily changes.

Pricing manipluation doesn't stop at the Stock Market and the Futures Market.

A gas station near my home changes their price up to 5 times a day. Highest price is always in the morning as people are on their way to work. Lowest price is after 9pm in the evening.

Same gas station is within 100 feet of a county line, and is on the side where the gas taxes are half that of the other county. The lowest price is always after 9pm when there's little traffic on the road left and they're trying to get those passing through to stop there and "top off" or fill up.

44 posted on 02/23/2013 10:14:27 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: dirtboy

Blaming speculators for the gasoline prices is not only wrong, it is just flat out ridiculous demogoguery. Speculators can hardly be responsible for increasing the cost of a commodity which they have no opportunity to trade in the first place. The great majority of petroleum is NEVER traded in the futures markets. The vast majorty of petroleum is traded by direct contracts between the upstream sovereign nation monopolies s and cartels such as OPEC and non-OPEC nationalized oil companies and the downstream refiners, some of whom are also nationalized entities. Only a small fraction of this petroleum produced and traded is ever traded on the financial markets.

The small fraction of petroleum traded on the financial markets is financed by the speculators, which relieves the oil corporations of the responsibility for spending their own monies to finance the petroleum inventories necessary to hedge adequate supplies to maintain a steady flow of feedstock to maintain the operation of the refineries. without costly additional shutdowns. If the financing of spot market petroleum supplies by speculators were to be ended and oil corporations had to finance their own reserve petroleum supplies, the resultant costs for the oil refiners would cause a major increase in their costs to refine and a major increase in the cost of the refined gasoline considerably higher than what is now being seen. These higher refining costs would be the result of oil refiners needing to compete to purchase the reserve supplies rather than sharing the same pool of supplies, the massive increase in costs for separate storage and transportation facilities, which are now a shared cost in the pooled market, and the increased costs to the refiner for borrowing the capital necessary to purchase and sote the reserve petroleum supplies.

The bottomline is that ignorantly blaming and scapegoating the speculators on the open capital markets for petroleum supplies used in spot market hedging of such supplies is tantamount to eating the goose that lays the golden eggs at no cost to the users of the golden eggs.


45 posted on 02/23/2013 10:51:10 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Kaslin

Obama has threatened energy companies again and again. Those investors in the biz are only reacting to his Communist messages that are causing insecurity in the energy markets. If he would get off his personal Communist goals and stop harassing the energy markets then gas prices would fall significantly.


46 posted on 02/23/2013 11:00:35 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: dirtboy

What value does a Wall Street bank or hedge fund add by buying oil futures?

None. They only add volatility, profit on the way up, profit on the way down, so long as the pendulum is swinging wildly they’re happy.

But, the real world is thrown into disarray. Restrict trade to those who not just can but will take delivery and return the process to rational purpose.


47 posted on 02/23/2013 11:11:25 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: WhiskeyX
Puh-leeze. As the paragraph I copied noted:

Commercial end-users of oil such as airlines and trucking companies who once dominated 70 percent of the market for market for future deliveries of oil now represent just 30 percent. Non-commercial financial speculators now dominate 70 percent of the market.

That is a fundamental shift in commodities trading. And when the supply margins are narrow, as they are now, controlling a relatively small amount of petroleum (or in this case, gasoline) can have a significant impact on pricing, as we saw in 2008.

I am not saying speculation is the only factor, far from it. The real blame lies with the nitwits such as Obama and his minions who try to sandbag production increases. But I am saying there should be position limits on those who are neither producers nor end users.

48 posted on 02/23/2013 11:13:09 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: usconservative
OPEC Countries REDUCING output literally barrel for barrel for every barrel produced here in the US.

GOOD!

Will they ever cut it to zero and then freak out and boost production, as they realize they have no income and the US is now getting all the bucks?

49 posted on 02/23/2013 11:24:49 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: G Larry

Ethanol in gas causes a 12% reduction in mileage.

That is a NASCAR number, not mine.


50 posted on 02/23/2013 11:30:14 AM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: Kaslin

yes


51 posted on 02/23/2013 11:37:43 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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To: dirtboy

The problem is with how you read the stuff you quoted and proceeded to fail to understadn what you read.

For example, Delta airlines purchased the 185,000 barrel per day ConocoPhillips refinery in Traner, Pennsylvania to mitigate the crack spread differential in cost for some its aviation fuel. This had the effect of removing some of Delta Airlines share of the market speculation, which in turn increased the share for market spculators. So, the shift in percentages does nto mean what you choose to imply that it means at all.

Indeed, the Federal Government policies, especially the EPA policies and policies of states like California, are responsible for the skyrocketing increases in prices for gasoline.

Start with the wholesale and deliberate sabotage and destruction of the economy. The decreases in the U.S. consumption of gasoline had been due to the lack of sales and economic activity caused by the impoverishment of the consumers. Lower sales of gasoline means fewer customers for the refineries and their products. Refineries have to be kept in constant production to avoid damage and maintenance costs over and above the routine shutdowns for maintenance. If a refiner is unable to sell enough refined gasoline and other distallates at prices sufficient to justify the continued operation of the refinery, the refinery must either be sold to another business or it must be shutdown.

Once a refinery is shutdown, it must either be mothballed for a short enough interval for it to be restorred to full operation in the near future, or it must be demolished. Once a refinery is shutdown and demolished, it cannot be rebuilt bevause the EPA has made it almost impossible to build a petroleum refinery in the United States. Consequently, oil refineries are becoming fewer and fewer due to progressive political attrition and destruction of the domestic refineries. If the trend wre allowed to continue, the United States will in the forseeable future U.S. gasoline marketers will find it necessary to export domestic oil production to foreign refineries and then import the refined gasoline and aviation fuel back into the United States at vastly increased costs. Some companies are already looking at the prospect of constructing tanker ships for the transport of gasoline from foreign refineries.

Before you go around trying to scapegoat investors who are financing oil reserves for the small fraction of the total market of petroleum out of their own pockets, you had better look at the actual barrels of petroleum being produced andd sold versus the number of barrels of petroleum being traded by speculators on the commodities markets. Speculators simply cannot inflate the contract prices which are not sold on the commodities markets and they are unable to trade in the first place, which means the vast bulk of petroleum sold around the world.

If you want o blame and scapegoat someone for the high gasoline prices, why don’t ou start with the people who are blocking the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline and the people who are blocking the continued operation of existing oil refineries and the construction of new oil refineries. Obama and the Obama Administration aer blocking the keystone XL pipeline as payback for the political campaign monies from Warren Buffet and George Soros. Warren Buffet’s Berkshire hathaway owns the Burlington Northern & Santa Fe railroad that is the only economical means of transporting the Bakken oil production to the refiners. The keystone XL pipeline would end that monopoly and lower the costs for this petroleum and make it possible to lower gasoline prices in the northwest. Yet here you are trying to demonize, villify, and lynch the reputations of the speculators who are helping to finance lower prices at their own expense or profit.


52 posted on 02/23/2013 12:12:30 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
If you want o blame and scapegoat someone for the high gasoline prices, why don’t ou start with the people who are blocking the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline and the people who are blocking the continued operation of existing oil refineries and the construction of new oil refineries

Uh, I did just that:

The real blame lies with the nitwits such as Obama and his minions who try to sandbag production increases.

However, since you mentioned refining capacity, refiners have deliberately taken capacity off line. It isn't just the enviro-nuts.

And my point stands, there needs to be position limits on those who are neither producers nor end users.

53 posted on 02/23/2013 12:31:03 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

As I already commented upon and you disregarde, the oil coporations are selling and closing refineries as a consequence of the politicians making it operationally and/or financially necessary to do so. The EPA is making it increasingly difficult to continue the operation of refineries, especially the older refineries where the costs of retrofitting the latest emssions controls and spill safety mandates are too uneconomical or risky due to potentail lawsuits. The refinery must then either be sold to a comapny who can justify the costs and risks of legal complications or the refinery must be closed, demolished, and the real estate remediated at great expense. Given the political landscape where there is no relief in sight for many years to come, what would you have them do? do you really think they should take such financial and other risks when there is not enough consumer demand to keep the refinery from being idled or not enough market for its products to remain profitable?


54 posted on 02/23/2013 12:56:14 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Kaslin

Aiken County, SC yesterday, Friday: $3.599/gal
Today, Saturday, 3.479/gal

Gotta love that, “plunge in crude futures.” :)

I wish someone with credible creds would do a comprehensive story on how the price of gasoline is determined, from the oil field worker to the worker at the corner convenience store.

I understand retail profit is about $.02/gal. I watch the futures prices. There doesn’t seem to be much coordination between that and the retail price. So, what gives?


55 posted on 02/23/2013 3:06:51 PM PST by upchuck (nobama fact #69: For each job created by the nobama administration, 75 people went on food stamps.)
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To: WhiskeyX
As I already commented upon and you disregarde, the oil coporations are selling and closing refineries as a consequence of the politicians making it operationally and/or financially necessary to do so.

Horsecrap. The refiners themselves have admitted such:

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/02/why-are-gas-prices-so-bizarrely-high-right-now/273357/

"Atlantic Basin capacity closures have improved refining fundamentals," the nation's biggest refiner, Valero, said in a slide presentation at a Credit Suisse conference this month. It estimated that nearly 1 million barrels a day of refinery capacity has been closed on the East Coast or in the U.S. Virgin Islands in the past two years, which Valero said allowed it to increase profit margins.

56 posted on 02/23/2013 3:51:04 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: WhiskeyX

And BTW, I don’t blame refiners like Valero from making business decisions to improve their margins. Just don’t pretend this is all the fault of the enviro-weenies. Blame is all around here.


57 posted on 02/23/2013 3:56:57 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I think it is mostly Obunghole.


58 posted on 02/23/2013 6:15:08 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: Kaslin

Speculators.

Some day I hope to read a serious explanation of this.

Every trade is a two way street.

If one trader bets the price is going up, he must find another trader who thinks the price is going down.

It’s just like every other market in the economy.

If there are more buyers than sellers, the price goes up.


59 posted on 02/23/2013 11:19:44 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: depressed in 06

Oil prices are set in a world oil market. Speculators speculate that oil prices will fall as well as that they will rise. If they speculate the wrong way, they lose their shirts. That is why an exhaustive investigation in 2008 by the Commodities Futures Trading Commission, which unlike Obama’s politicized Justice Department actually enjoys expertise on the issue, concluded that the net effect of speculation was to reduce prices. That is because all the speculation just nets out to accelerating market recognition of supply and demand conditions, making oil prices smoother and less volatile, reducing risk and hence price.

That is why as Investors Business Daily editorialized on April 26, “At last count, 35 such investigations have been conducted over the decades, and none — not a single one — has turned up wrongdoing by investors or oilmen.” All of this talk of speculation is just boob bait for bubbas, intentionally misleading the gullible, uneducated, and easy to command. As IBD added, “Rather than carry out another useless inquisition of private citizens, our political class should be investigating its own role in the price crisis. The result would be a revelation for those who fall for Washington’s line about greedy businessmen whenever gasoline prices become painfully high.”

http://spectator.org/archives/2011/05/04/obamas-war-on-oil/


60 posted on 02/24/2013 7:33:48 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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