Posted on 02/22/2013 9:20:19 PM PST by txrangerette
Washington - The crowd...was downright unfriendly. Perry was interrupted, denounced and heckled for snubbing a Medicaid exansion in his state, but he vowed not to budge.
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The unfriendliness didn't stem from members of the Texas state Society...at a ritzy Republican club.
But the Lone star State's famously anti-Washington governor faced...protestors, of the Texas Organizing Project, who popped up by turns where he spoke.
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I would love to see Abbott as Lt. Governor. Because of what I perceive as the power structure in Texas, I think his talents would be wasted as Governor. OTOH, Abbott is a great AG - if he decides to run for another position in 2014, wonder who is out there that can continue to serve Texans as well.
The major cities, the politicians in them and the people who vote for those politicians support amnesty, gays and increased irresponsible spending. Then we have RINOS like Patterson who wants to expand the guest worker program. Does not bode well.
I’m generally no defender of Perry, considering his INSANE idea of putting toll booths on our freeways and his coddling of Illegals, but he’s been right on the money here.
What’s got to be grating the liberals now is that people in Texas that want these goodies now may flood other states, which, all of a sudden, are much more generous in providing health care for people with low reported income. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if people showing up at government offices are told something like: “you don’t qualify here, but Florida and Arizona would be HAPPY to put you on their roles”.
Similarly for the great education bribe, where the governor has told DC to shove it with its Common Core Curricula - which he correctly describes as a federal takeover of education. In fact, California, which actually had very high math standards, had to lower theirs to line up with the feds. Specifically, they used to require Algebra in 8th grade, now it’s 9th grade, and the reason given with the Common Core Curricula
If all they did was come here to work and go home, under a regularized program, to do certain work that could absorb them without blocking citizens from that work if they wanted it, I would have no problem with that. Please say what would be wrong with it. I don’t get it.
FR readers might want to know that CSCOPE - re: your tagline - has seen the light of day. It has now been opened up to the legislature and to the public. People are on to it. I’ve posted that new fact on other threads. So, guess what, it isn’t someone’s “exclusive” beef, and it isn’t going unrecognized and unattended to.
The whistle blowing began with Texans themselves whose kids in the public schools brought the treasonous bilge home with them and caused parents to contact their public officials.
Unfortunately, as it was portrayed on the internet, one would get the impression that Texans themselves were sitting idly by, doing nothing, when the truth is otherwise.
When Texans turned out to vote massively for a Mormon Yankee ex-governor of Massachusetts because he was NOT Barack Hussein Obama, that is not the action of a people who would knowingly sit by while their children were propagandized and brainwashed by a secret, treasonous curriculum.
Do Kasich, Brewer, Scott et al know less than Perry about this
Rick Scott was the Chairman and CEO of one of the largest operators of private healthcare facilities in the world. I don't know about Kasich or Brewer, but the idea that Rick Scott knows less about providing health care than Rick Perry is pretty ludicrous.
What are you talking about?
The point was, why did FL, AZ and OH buckle to Obamacare when, as Perry said, down that road leads to bankruptcy. Does Perry know more about the road leading to bankruptcy going through buckling to Obamacare than these others, or do they know it, too, but buckled for other reasons?
I know about Scott’s background.
This has NOTHING to do with his background.
Nothing.
And since you “know it all”, do please further enlighten us on the advantages of caving to that part of the Obamacare mandate (ruled unconstitutional) for the states to greatly expand Medicaid to put millions of uninsured into Medicaid under Obamacare. In this instance, apparently the Feds say they will, for now, give you money (that they don’t have) for the expansion, but it’s clear that later, you will be on your own.
Perry’s point: the Medicaid system is broken. You should not, and he will not, greatly expand a broken system. Down that road, whether under Obamacare or under anything, is bankruptcy. His point: the states need wavers that allow them to design their own programs for the poor. His point: as in Texas’ refusal to set up an Obamacare state exchange, do not co-operate with Obamacare, period.
The poet has well written: “Do not go gentle into that good night; rage, rage against the dying of the light”.
LOL, you don’t seem to be a CSCOPE supporter either.
I just added that tag line on that post. I call it “spooky” how 70 to 80% of the schools in Texas would just sign up to it, sight unseen, illegally, right under the noses of our state legislature, which is being HOUNDED non-stop into handing them even billions of dollars more. That’s some gratitude on their part.
When such a high percentage of schools do this, one has to SERIOUSLY wonder just who runs the schools. I’d like to think it’s a conspiracy, because that’s the optimistic view. They got into a smoke-filled room, decided they HATED the yahoos at the State Board of Education (elected by real Texans, by the way), and agreed to use CSCOPE to kick them out of their oversight role.
The reason I want to believe it’s a conspiracy is because the only alternative is that we have some type of alien entity running our schools (see the movie “They Live”, on Youtube). This is TEXAS for Heaven’s sake, not California or MA or other blue states. How did this entity take control of our schools?
I’m sure the courts would never allow it, but I wish Dan Patrick and company would simply de-fund ANY school using CSCOPE, if nothing else, as punishment for that stunt.
By the way, in my “discussions” on CSCOPE in other forums, I’ve had 4 people respond to me (all appeared to be teachers). All 4 agreed that CSCOPE sucks academically, and two of them agreed that I suck too (LOL) as a paranoid right-winger. But NONE OF THEM seemed bothered by any other aspect of CSCOPE, such as the threat of criminal prosecution for disclosing content, the end-around from our state accountability system, the inability of parents to see the material and thereby help (really teach) their kids, etc. None of that bothered them - which tells me that they are CLEARLY part of the problem, since if CSCOPE was a decent curriculum, it’s quite possible that it would still be under wraps - as teacher complaints (only about content) has been one of the main reasons it has finally seen daylight.
If all they did was come here to work and go home..”
But that’s not what they do. They never go home. They have children and bring their entire families across. There is no enforcement of any of our current laws concerning illegals and when there is, like Sheriff Joe is trying to do, it is not supported by the Federal agencies. We have millions sitting at home collecting unemployment that could and should be doing most of these job and they would if their unemployment was cut off.
Human nature being what it is, employers can pay them less in cash which ends up in Mexico and not on the tax roles. Then there is all the money we spend on ESL classes in public schools and all the Section 8 housing, lunch programs, Medicaid and other government benefits that they end up receiving. Also to be addressed is the dilution of our United States culture. The Federal government simply will not enforce the current laws - what makes you think they would enforce any change in the laws to ensure compliance?
We don’t even do anything about those that overstay legal visas. And we have no idea what/who is even coming across the Mexico border into the U.S. Don’t you think it is a bit strange that a U.S. citizen cannot go into Mexico and demand and get the same “rights” that Mexican citizens come into the U.S. and demand and receive?
Its not like texas doesn’t have its issues. They pretty much force the kids to take spanish classes because god forbid you not be able to communicate with all the illegals they embrace in their state. And I do mean embrace. they treat them better than they treat a fellow conservative american who comes to their state. texans take full advantage of the cheap illegal labor at the same time bitching about all the freebies they get. put your money where your mouth is texans. give up your cheap illegal labor and maybe you guys wouldn’t come across as such hypocrites. And yes, i lived there. saw it with my own eyes. Texas gets alot of stuff right but this issue...not so much
The point was, why did FL, AZ and OH buckle to Obamacare when, as Perry said, down that road leads to bankruptcy
This raises a question: if Medicare expansion grows a "broken" system that takes us down the road to bankruptcy, what was Medicare doing before?
Rick Perry has had over a decade as Governor of Texas; at any time, he could have completely opted out of Medicare. If he's right about it, why hasn't he gotten out completely?
And since you “know it all”, do please further enlighten us on the advantages of caving to that part of the Obamacare mandate (ruled unconstitutional) for the states to greatly expand Medicaid to put millions of uninsured into Medicaid under Obamacare.
Sure.
Let's say you're the Governor of Florida, and you notice that your state spends $2.8 billion a year covering care for uninsured people. You also know that you can cut that by 25%-50% by taking a federal grant. If you really hate the idea of taking federal money you could consider other options. (And let's be clear, we're talking about taking more federal money, on top of the billions that they've been happily taking for years.)
You could sit back and do nothing. The Feds will come in and set you up an "insurance exchange" (after all, why would you want to run your own state when you can delegate to the Feds?). The idea of the exchanges is to use market forces to lower the cost of insurance. Of course, if you punt the Medicaid expansion, all of those people will get subsidized policies from your state exchange. This huge base of artificial demand will stifle competition and cause insurance rates in your state to be higher than normal.
So, the bottom line of rejecting the Medicaid expansion is that the people who were buying insurance before are now paying more.
I think Rick Scott understands all of this from his years of business experience. I'm not so sure about career politician Rick "I can't remember the third thing" Perry.
Careful about getting Medicare and Medicaid confused.
But at least you're a voice of reason. The expansion is a potential time bomb, and states that take part are setting their citizens up for heartache.
I'm dreading 2014.
Careful about getting Medicare and Medicaid confused.
Thank you for the correction. My brain said "Medicaid" and my fingers said "Medicare." It is, as you point out, and important distinction.
Excuse me?
He could have completely opted out of Medicaid??
Tell me all about it.
Oh I’m aware of the horrible “system” going on now, thanks to the Feds.
I wasn’t aware that Patterson wanted to expand guest worker while everything else stayed just like it is now (horrible), or was made even worse if another legislative amnesty is granted. Many people have made the point that a de facto amnesty is in effect now because Obama has made himself the law instead of enforcing the laws on the books.
I thought we were talking about the idea of guest workers, as opposed to the idea of amnesty or de facto amnesty, path to citizenship, etc. It was that idea I was asking about what is wrong with it.
Really?
In my high school they offered French, German, Latin and Spanish.
I chose French.
That was years ago...has something changed that forces hs students to take Spanish?
I’m sure a lot do take it. But the issue is, are they forced?
Because you have done “A” before does not mean that doing “A” under different circumstances going forward is the thing to do.
The circumstances regarding the Medicaid program of today are different from what they were through the years. It was always a disaster in the making as the years passed. It could not help but lead to a bad result, or brokenness, as Perry says.
It has nowhere to go but down.
Now you have on top of that a placement of the stupid, already broken as it is written, Obamacare on top of Medicaid.
Anyone who brings up Perry’s debate problem (he did better as the debates went on, but what the hay do YOU care, right?...as he got past his back surgery and pain meds difficulties) is de facto admitting you don’t really care about reasoning and common sense on the issue under discussion.
Again, tell us more and more and more how you love caving to Obamacare. You can deny it forever, but you can’t be believed. It isn’t good to set up a state exchange under Obamacare. It isn’t good to expand Medicaid so Obamacare can sit on top of it to collapse it more than it already is. To argue those points is to be totally FOR caving to Obamacare and it does not matter what you call it.
You need to start an honest thread of your own. A vanity. Call it Mr. Know It All’s apologia for caving to Obamacare. Make your hero Rick Scott. He knows so much about healthcare. He knows caving to Obamacare is just the thing for Americans and Floridians and even Texans to do.
Glad I live in Texas.
Elementery school.
You are right. Lt. Gov would be a far better position.
Replacing him as AG could be tricky.
Perry is the one who got away. He would have stood strong on gun rights and religious freedom. Three terms and Texas is going strong under his leadership. Who cares if he’s not a smooth talking elitist.
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