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Would New Gun Laws Spark Widespread Civil Disobedience?
PJ Media ^ | Feb 17, 2013 | Paul Hsieh

Posted on 02/17/2013 7:14:01 AM PST by EXCH54FE

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To: GOPJ
Non-violent civil disobedience is the answer ...

It is part of the answer. Do some research and you will find civil disobedience is a VERY ORGANIZED WELL PLANNED process.
81 posted on 02/17/2013 11:02:59 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Lord save me from some conservatives, they don't understand human nature any better than liberals.)
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To: GOPJ
I'd be willing to Urinate and Defecate on their Dirt Nap Resting Place.
82 posted on 02/17/2013 11:13:57 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: EXCH54FE

RESOLUTION OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS OF THE COUNTY OF SISKIYOU (CA)IN SUPPORT OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT
AND THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS

WHEREAS, the American people have retained to themselves the right to “keep and bear arms” – a right not subject to infringement by Congress as is memorialized in the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, as part of United States Bill of Rights, ratified on December 15, 1791; and,

WHEREAS, Cooper v. Aaron held that since the Supremacy Clause of Article VI made the U.S. Constitution the supreme law of the land and Marbury v. Madison gave the Supreme Court the power of judicial review, the precedent set forth in Brown v. Board of Education is the supreme law of the land and is therefore binding on all the states, regardless of any state laws contradicting it; and,

WHEREAS, a landmark decisions issued by the United States Supreme Court in District of Columbia v. Heller established that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to possess a firearm from federal infringement unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that Arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as, but not limited to, self-defense within the home; and,

WHEREAS, the Court in McDonald v. City of Chicago established that the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution extended protection of the individual right to keep and bear arms to the several States under due process provisions of that Amendment; and,

WHEREAS, the strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government; and,

WHEREAS, the government of California has repeatedly released violent criminals back into its’ lawful society; and,

WHEREAS, according to Merriam Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary, the word “infringement” means “an encroachment or trespass on a right or privilege” – in other words a violation or constraint upon a right; and,

WHEREAS, sadly, recent high profile events within our country have sparked discussions of gun-control at the local, state and federal levels, which have advanced proposed legislation which professes to address gun violence, while, in fact, infringes upon Second Amendment rights - (this has included numerous gun and ammunition control proposals, outright gun bans as well as registration schemes that would convert the right into a revocable privilege); and,

WHEREAS, the County of Siskiyou’s economy is supported by family ranching, farming and natural resource businesses, and that the right to keep and bear Arms is fundamental to our right to protect our families, our property, our livestock, and our livelihood; and,

WHEREAS, as a “frontier county,” hunting for food is a practice among many residents and, as a sport, hunting makes an important contribution to the local economy; and,

WHEREAS, the residents of this County respect the rights protected by the Second Amendment through the recognition and support of responsible firearm ownership, training and awareness; and,

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the Board of Supervisors of the County of Siskiyou supports all discussions seeking new ideas to protect our citizens from violence but cannot abide by any order, provision, law or agency initiative that violates the protections of the Second Amendment.

PASSED AND ADOPTED by the Board of Supervisors of the County of Siskiyou County at a regular meeting of said Board, held the 12th day of February, 2013, by the following vote of said Board:

Ayes: Armstrong, Kobseff, Bennett, Criss, Valenzuela
Noes: None


83 posted on 02/17/2013 11:19:10 AM PST by marsh2
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To: rmh47
A Louisianan should know that.

Ha. I moved to Arkansas last year.

84 posted on 02/17/2013 11:19:30 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE has been used by protestors for years. The “Bucket Brigade” at Klamath Falls to protest the cut off of water to farmers was an act of civil disobedience. Even Congressmen attended.

•How to protest using civil disobedience (peaceful)http://www.ehow.com/how_2083182_protest-using-civil-disobedience.html
•Civil disobedience (peaceful)
http://www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/society/civil-disobedience.html
•Civil disobedience (what is it)
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/civil-disobedience/
•The Role of Civil Disobedience in Democracy
http://www.civilliberties.org/sum98role.html
•The class of nonviolence
http://www.salsa.net/peace/conv/


85 posted on 02/17/2013 11:26:00 AM PST by marsh2
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To: no-to-illegals

That is certainly a possibility.


86 posted on 02/17/2013 11:39:20 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: no-to-illegals

That is certainly a possibility.


87 posted on 02/17/2013 11:39:26 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: no-to-illegals

That is certainly a possibility.


88 posted on 02/17/2013 11:39:26 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: no-to-illegals

That is certainly a possibility.


89 posted on 02/17/2013 11:39:34 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: no-to-illegals

That is certainly a possibility.


90 posted on 02/17/2013 11:39:34 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: qwerty1234

F*ck you. Little Quisling, you are on the wrong website.


91 posted on 02/17/2013 11:41:25 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Five possibilities altogether. Why not say it once and be done with it?


92 posted on 02/17/2013 11:42:41 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SgtHooper

The OK’s will end up on our side. A few more will sit it out. The ones who go out and follow illegal orders aren’t the kind of people who deserve to be living in a free Country anyway.


93 posted on 02/17/2013 11:43:24 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Revolting cat!

IPad flipped out. Wasn’t registering the keyclick on the Post button.


94 posted on 02/17/2013 11:44:45 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse

That is certainly a possibility. Thanks ...


95 posted on 02/17/2013 11:47:35 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Lexington Green
Another important difference, which has been mentioned, is that for the Left, civil disobedience is often largely symbolic: participants do not expect to be able to prevent any immediate violence, but rather commit civil disobedience to symbolically express their commitment. Because their civil disobedience is largely symbolic, groups on the Left can disregard, to some extent, the effectiveness of their actions in stopping violence and focus instead on the process by which they plan and execute civil disobedience. For participants in Operation Rescue, however, the point of doing civil disobedience is to prevent a real and immediate harm: abortions. The symbolic aspect of civil disobedience is much less important. Hence Operation Rescue is likely less concerned with the process by which civil disobedience is conducted and more concerned with the outcome of preventing abortions.


If you search for conservative civil disobedience, you will find actual research on this. It is an interesting article but takes a thinking cap.

http://www.colorado.edu/conflict/full_text_search/AllCRCDocs/90-1.htm

The above is from their conclusion. For the libs, it is symbolic. Conservatives expect RESULTS when they do it. Won't the libs be surprised.......................

96 posted on 02/17/2013 11:49:19 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Lord save me from some conservatives, they don't understand human nature any better than liberals.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

For individuals on the Left, civil disobedience is frequently justified with reference to one’s conscience. For Operation Rescue participants, however, civil disobedience is seen not as an act of following one’s conscience, but as an act of obedience to God. The word obedience recurs frequently.


Another interesting note from the article. We can now understand our founding fathers a little better.


97 posted on 02/17/2013 12:00:44 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Lord save me from some conservatives, they don't understand human nature any better than liberals.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

. Social movements of the Left that are committed to nonviolence tend to intentionally avoid using language that evokes images of violence, including words that evoke a militaristic analogy with the movement. The Colorado chapter of Operation Rescue terms its rescues Minuteman rescues, evoking the citizens’ militia during the American War of Revolution. Other literature states:

We are among the front line troops in this battle for life. Together we will win!

We have an army of people. The battle is raging....The Commander is calling most of us to the front lines.


The more I read the article, the more I like it.


98 posted on 02/17/2013 12:05:29 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Lord save me from some conservatives, they don't understand human nature any better than liberals.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Training of Participants
An important step when civil disobedience is used by Left groups is the training of participants in preparation for the action. If the action is to be planned and conduct- ed in a decentralized manner, then it is important that all participants, rather than just a few, become “experts” in nonviolence. Such training includes educating participants about the history of the use of nonviolent action, the philosophy of nonviolence, and the dynamics of nonviolent action (how it “works”), as well as participating in simula- tion of situations likely to be encountered during the use of nonviolence. Nonviolence has been used throughout history as a strategy to resist unjust authority, and educating participants to this fact imparts both a confidence in using an established method of conflict resolution and of being part of a long tradition of civil disobedience.

It is useful for participants to understand the ideolo- gy of nonviolence, such as that it is not passive but rather is an active form of resistance that differs from violent resistance in the refusal to inflict violence and the will- ingness to incur it; and that its use can be either pragmat- ic of philosophically (usually religiously) based. It is important for participants to know how civil disobedience achieves desired ends: either the opponent is persuaded to change his or her views upon witnessing the willingness of the nonviolent activist to incur, but not in return inflict, suffering; or the opponent is physically prevented from carrying out his or her actions. Participants are sometimes asked to sign a pledge that they will remain nonviolent during the action.

Operation Rescue trains its participants only minimally and not in the ways described above. In the case of the Colorado group, though participants were required to sign a pledge of nonviolence, they were not required to have participated in nonviolence training. During the two rallies that I attended on nights before rescue actions, the philosophy, use, and history of nonviolence were not discussed. Nor is nonviolence explained in any Operation Rescue literature, except in reference to the Bible allowing it when man's laws conflict with God's laws.


More nuggets. There are differences. Less centralization and training with conservatives. We expect results.

Part of the article address the sheep scenario also which I most times agree with but things do change. As people protest and participation increase and word of mouth goes on we may discover we have more sheep dogs than we thought we have. The lie is that we are sheep, the truth is we have have potential to be sheep dogs.

After reading the article, I am more encouraged than I was when I got up this morning.

99 posted on 02/17/2013 12:17:36 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Lord save me from some conservatives, they don't understand human nature any better than liberals.)
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To: no-to-illegals

No apologies required. Well, not from you. :-)


100 posted on 02/17/2013 12:40:33 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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