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Would New Gun Laws Spark Widespread Civil Disobedience?
PJ Media ^ | Feb 17, 2013 | Paul Hsieh

Posted on 02/17/2013 7:14:01 AM PST by EXCH54FE

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To: Max in Utah

I’m with you Max. I am also an old guy who will not give up.


61 posted on 02/17/2013 8:58:34 AM PST by certrtwngnut (')
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To: Peet; everyone
RANT ON ... I would like to know since when upholding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights has become polarizing. Since it is stated (in the article) upholding the Constitution and Bill of Rights is polarizing and causing polarization of America and Americans, then so be it. Adults can control children. Constitutional Family Loving Patriots can control tyrants. This is America! Americans are not going to be pushovers. Dig up hitler and ask him....RANT OFF

This post is not directed at anyone in particular on this board. I do direct this post to those who desire to take away the rights of the people granted by God, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights.

62 posted on 02/17/2013 9:08:38 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: dagogo redux
We simply need One Law to Rule Them All: “The Federal government shall leave the States and the People the f*** alone.”

That's precisely what the battle to create the Constitution was about. How to control the federal government so it wouldn't abuse its citizens. The brightest minds in human history couldn't contain the beast. The thirst for power among a few is too great even for hundreds of millions to contain.

63 posted on 02/17/2013 9:15:39 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Glenmore

I can see that happening too. Not all Americans are as herdable as the rest of the world, some are downright ornery when pushed. A large number would fight UN troops, but some would run to greet them with open arms. The later would likely swing from a pole too.


64 posted on 02/17/2013 9:18:21 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Max in Utah
'Freedom' is NOT voting. It's NOT purple fingers. It never was.

People in the creepiest hellholes in the world 'get to vote'. Their elites - like ours - need to have their fat egos fed. What better way than the vote? Saddam Hussein claimed 98% of the vote. The creepy fat one in North Korea loves the vote - it allowed the shit to think he was loved. Same with the thugs in Iran.

It's not 'this elite' or 'that elite'... who cares? One group's as corrupt as the other.

The only thing we ( we the people) want from the puffed up 'used car salesmen types' in Washington DC is for them to protect the freedoms that matter to us: the freedoms granted by our Constitution. Freedoms that protect our rights as citizens. OUR freedom is based on the Constitution and the BILL OF RIGHTS. That's what 'we the citizens' are willing to die for.. Willingly.

That freeodom is the reason people of the world want to escape to our country. So THEY can be free from their puffed-up - lowlife - elites. The protection of citizen's rights.

Would I be willing to die to defend a bunch of elites? NO. I wouldn't be willing to get a bad cold to defend a bunch of elites. I wouldn't be willing to cross a street to defend a John Kerry. I wouldn't spend a nickel to defend a bunch of puffed-up liberal elites - OR ANY elites for that matter. Like you, this will be done for our children and grandchildren.

65 posted on 02/17/2013 9:21:06 AM PST by GOPJ (To be free is to own oneÂ’s risk - Jonathan Levy)
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To: cpdiii
How you been, FRiend?

There are about 10 million big game hunters in the United States. By nature of what they hunt they are using rifles that are perfectly suited for sniping.

Ha-ha! Check out my "Bambi" comment towards the bottom...here.


66 posted on 02/17/2013 9:21:46 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: certrtwngnut

i AM 70....I swore to protect the constitution, and our rights to bear arms against tyranny......my battle cry is molon labe!


67 posted on 02/17/2013 9:23:18 AM PST by Bullfrogg (American by birth, Irish by heritage, and hellraiser by choice)
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To: GOPJ
Amen GOPJ. Thank You!
68 posted on 02/17/2013 9:27:37 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Dead Corpse

>>It isn’t the cops we’ll be fighting. It’s those giving the illegal orders...

Our rights have eroded steadily for decades, and that has accelerated in the last 10 years to the point where the government can, and does already, do ANYTHING it wants, with impunity.

Why don’t you post some links to all the stories about internet/armchair warriors like yourself that have risen up and taken back our rights? Can’t find any stories like that? Big surprise.

You are exactly the kind of person I am talking about - tough guy on the internet that is going to rise up and save the country, as soon as things get bad enough....problem is, things never actually get ‘bad enough’ to get people (including me) off the couch and do anything because its easier to rollover and go back to living your life. Its happening already - if you plan on being a hero, what are you waiting for? Oh yea, I know, you are just laying in wait for the right opportunity.....

Where was the masses of resisters the last time assault weapons ban was passed? where was the citizens militia when machine guns were banned? where were all the internet/armchair warrirs when the TSA started feeling up your wife and daughter in order to get on a plane? Where was the armed resistance when the supreme court ruled that police no longer need a warrant to search your house? Where was the action when Obama declared he had the right to issue kill orders on American citizen on his word alone?

It’s not going to happen, my armchair-warrior friend, no matter how much tough talk you can type.


69 posted on 02/17/2013 9:31:36 AM PST by qwerty1234
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To: theBuckwheat
There is a third option: we redefine the federal government. Of the three options, compliance leads us to tyranny and that was the road that leads to democide.

Who is alive today that has the Divine acumen the Framers did? I would posit no one.

I wouldn't trust any man alive today to rewrite an already perfect document.

Can you imagine the "compromise" that would occur in a re write?

Again, the Constitution is all but ignored now, why would a new one be any different?

We need to enforce what we have, not re write it.

I agree with the points you bring up regarding where we are as a Nation, just disagree with your approach to fix it.

70 posted on 02/17/2013 9:43:46 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: theBuckwheat
The down side of a CC, at this point, is that we might very well end up with something worse than what we currently have!
Liberals would write our new Constitution and dictate what our new form of government would be! Is that what you want?

Our current form of government and the original Constitution is fine. Where things have gone wrong is that corrupt men seek to exert unlawful control over those they are supposed to serve simply out of a perverse desire for power.
Restore what once was with a few newer things left in and things would be vastly improved. Simply removing the powers and authorities the government has taken outside of the Constitution would be an alternate solution.

Unfortunately Congress won't do that by themselves.

JMHO

71 posted on 02/17/2013 9:44:39 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: EXCH54FE

Watch Colorado.

We seem to be poised to implement at 15 round magazine limit.

Expect widespread non-compliance.

Expect Magpul to move to Wyoming.


72 posted on 02/17/2013 10:01:53 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: qwerty1234
Hey there Mr. or Mrs. ... at this point I do not give a happy. So I'm going to offer this point to you. Do likewise liberal. Post your tripe. Stand up and be counted. Go ahead and become another dorner. Please be my guest. I'll hunt you for the dog you are FRiend.
73 posted on 02/17/2013 10:03:05 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Dead Corpse

My apology for butting in.


74 posted on 02/17/2013 10:05:36 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

153 years to be precise. A Louisianan should know that.


75 posted on 02/17/2013 10:15:00 AM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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To: no-to-illegals

To paraphrase N. Pelosi..”we will have to pass the new revised Constitution to know what is in it”


76 posted on 02/17/2013 10:29:56 AM PST by ssschev (Pick up the can, throw out the trash.)
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To: qwerty1234
The fight has been fought - we lost.

I remember when the Founding Fathers quit without even trying because the Tories were saying bad things about them. If someone calls you a bad name then the thing to do is surrender and cry about it.

77 posted on 02/17/2013 10:38:12 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: ssschev
Right you are FRiend. Am typing this without my glasses, hope there are not too many typos. LOL
78 posted on 02/17/2013 10:38:48 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Dead Corpse

You are correct; however, those giving the orders will likely NOT be those executing the orders. So any police deemed to be “friendlies” will be in the front lines.


79 posted on 02/17/2013 10:47:50 AM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: EXCH54FE
Wide swaths of the country would likely thumb their noses at the central authorities

This part of what led to the demise of the USSR.
80 posted on 02/17/2013 10:58:36 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Lord save me from some conservatives, they don't understand human nature any better than liberals.)
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