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Trump, Levin Right About Rove
Big Government ^ | 2/16/13 | David Bossie

Posted on 02/16/2013 7:36:15 AM PST by Lakeshark

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61 posted on 02/16/2013 1:16:59 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: YukonGreen
Sarah Palin’s line “Good old boys”...

Sorry, but that line is older than Sarah Palin!

62 posted on 02/16/2013 1:32:03 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

First, there is no true free trade. It will never be because all nations act in their best interests.

That said, the trade of the present, global trade is. Harping on returning to the anomaly that was the USA in the 60’s is wasted breath. It will never happen.

The use of China as a scape goat is foolish because it assumes a static condition.


63 posted on 02/16/2013 2:01:01 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: Lakeshark

WHen we are .000001% as passionate about how wrong the left is as we are about how wrong guys on the right are we wil win an election.

Be of good cheer dying 70 yera old cancer stricken Freepers- Hillary will be a better president then any one Rove chooses.


64 posted on 02/16/2013 3:39:01 PM PST by NoLibZone (We have the nation we deserve. I predict Freepers will hate the 2016,2020,2024 GOP Cnadidates)
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To: Seizethecarp

Arigatou!


65 posted on 02/16/2013 6:00:03 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome ("Obama": His entire life is Photoshopped.)
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To: davisfh
Rove’s attempts to alter/improve American politics probably began its journey on the right path.

Rove/Dubya began doing that in Texas state politics, where "good government" RiNO types were recruited from the business ranks and moderate-Republican attorney ranks to oppose strong conservatives who were incumbent in state, judicial, and school-board positions.

Rove seems to believe that when the MSM propaganda machine scores a 5% movement in public opinion on a social issue like homo-everything, the wise Republican candidate moves with the polls, always, always "triangulating" on whatever the Democrat agitprop machine manages to put across, in order to preserve the GOP facade of "reasonableness".

66 posted on 02/16/2013 9:26:46 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Grandma Conservative

You’re exactly right.


67 posted on 02/16/2013 10:22:20 PM PST by rdb3 (We're all going to get what only some of us deserve...)
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To: Moonman62
I think the Bush royal family has always stood for Big Government. W picked a political adviser who was compatible.

Dubya inherited Rove from Poppy, iirc. Rove and Dubya were both involved in the 1988 and 1992 campaigns.

68 posted on 02/17/2013 3:05:16 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

“The idea that the GOPe shoved anyone down anyone’s throat is ridiculous. I defy ONE Freeper to provide any evidence that they were in any way forced to vote for someone they didn’t want to vote for or were prevented from voting for someone they wanted to vote for.”

Dole...Junior...McCain...Romney...

And then the scare tactic: “To not vote FOR our guy is to vote FOR their guy. We must stick together!”

Why Dole? Terrible candidate...Zero charisma...tired, worn out and it showed.

Why Junior? Stammering...simplistic...a veritable Chauncey Gardener (who happened to have THE NAME)

Why McCain? War hero? (who spent most of his time in a prison cell) A milquetoast, squishy, afraid to speak truth to power-type. Who in their right mind thought him to be a viable candidate?

Why Romney? Again, a squishy unable to passionately stand by true conservatism (without having to go back and revise his comments) Came across as a life-long pursuer of the ring (read: anointed).

Why these candidates—each of them left-of-conservative, having to channel Reaganism (rather than speak it from the heart). An endless parade of transparent hucksters who, rather than energizing the base, are selected on the basis that they do little to truly tick off the “undecided” (that supreme target of the GOP).

The GOP has deluded and deceived long enough. The game they are playing is for losers. They are not interested in being the party of Conservatism. They, like government workers, are simply interested in staying employed. They don’t seem to care about WINNING, or if they do, they haven’t a clue as to how to do it. They, like the Democrats are comprised exclusively of inside-the-beltway types. This should alarm anyone interested in “taking the party back.” How would you even know how to begin or who it is you are taking it back from? How far up the chain will YOU be allowed to go? Plenty of lower-echelon types will say, “Yes, yes. I agree.” But your ideas will not leave the room. They’ve got the game going just fine for them. Look what they’re saying about Ted Cruz, or anyone else who speaks out against the absolute, top-to-bottom corruption and filth that is Washington. The “established Republicans” virtually lead the charge in denouncing those who dare speak up. Look at the House. How much ground have the conceded/continue to concede to Obama, afraid of how the press might characterize them AND RISK THEIR CHANCES OF GETTING RE-ELECTED? What great GOP strategy do we see at work right now? Hmmmmm? I see them, joining with the Dems in destroying what’s left of America. Those that go up there to fight this (Tea Party-types) are ostracized, marginalized, not given committee seats, ridiculed, or they’re made to feel that their “Tea-Party-ness” must be downplayed in order to “get onboard.”

No. You’re right. No one put a gun to my head and said, “pull the darn lever.” But they didn’t put anyone in front of me that truly made me feel that this, THIS is the right man for the job. Did they do that for YOU?

Now, on the other hand, if you’re saying you want to blow the whole thing up, create a GOP from scratch, one that WILL NOT COMPROMISE on conservatism (fiscal AND social) as the first and foremost doctrine of “the party of principle,” then, I’m right there with you.


69 posted on 02/17/2013 4:22:07 AM PST by MarDav
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To: lentulusgracchus

Interesting analysis. What really needs to happen in this country is a return to government of, by and for the people. In looking at and analyzing our political past, that return seems extremely difficult at best and perhasps even impossible. I’m afraid that, given the size and diversity of this country, it is impossible. I fear that even a massive Tea Party movement, should it take hold and flourish, would fall into some of the same habits and end up serving itself to the detriment of the people.


70 posted on 02/17/2013 7:23:00 AM PST by davisfh
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

One of the big problems we have is open primaries. In the last election it was particularly bad with Obama running unopposed. One of the first things we need to do is close those primaries which can be done at the state level. No more liberals tampering with our nomination process.


71 posted on 02/17/2013 9:49:21 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: MarDav
The truth is anyone can run for president that wants to. I live in Iowa and we already have all these people coming to Iowa so they obviously believe each one has a shot or they wouldn't be coming.

As for me, at this point, I couldn't care less--I'm sick of the whole thing but what I'm saying I do not blame anyone but the Republican primary voters. I do not blame the "establishment", I do not blame the GOPe (probably the same thing and I do not blame Karl Rove--I blame Republican primary voters for the candidates.

I am dead set against any so-called "third party" effort and it is delusional to believe it is possible to destroy the present Republican party and build a new one from the ashes--not gonna happen--not possible. We still need all the exact same people if we hope to be able to defeat Democrats.

This change (if it's possible) must come from the bottom up.

We had too many candidates last time and from the looks of things, it's not going to be any better this time.

72 posted on 02/17/2013 2:49:10 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma (The perfect is the enemy of the good..............Voltaire)
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