Posted on 02/16/2013 7:36:15 AM PST by Lakeshark
If you’re a donor or potential donor to Karl Rove’s group American Crossroads, I recommend you listen to Mark Levin’s recent interview with Donald Trump, because they disclosed some long overdue truths that needed to be said.
Trump and Levin made several points that donors, the media, and the political class can no longer ignore and frankly should have picked up on long ago. When you see the facts all laid out, you’ll be asking yourself the same question as Levin: “I would say to the wealthy donors out there, why do you keep donating to him?”
The first point Trump makes is exhibit one in the case against Rove and something people should never, ever forget: “You know it was really Karl Rove who gave us Obama.” Mr. Trump is exactly right. The next time someone says Karl Rove is a political genius, just remember that his disastrous decisions during the Bush Administration paved the way for President Obama’s election, Obamacare’s implementation, and our unsustainable $16 trillion national debt.
The truth is that the only times in politics when the political pendulum swings that far in either direction is when things get really, really awful under the sitting president. What largely caused that political situation was Karl Rove’s wrongheaded advice to George W. Bush. Let’s also be honest about Rove being the architect of Bush’s two victories. Barely beating atrocious candidates like Al Gore and John Kerry is not exactly a heavy lift or something to brag about, because he nearly let both get away.
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Free Trade is a liberal idea that does not work. Who is going to keep subsidizing trilions of $$ in trade deficits and subsidies to counter foreign under-cutting of prices ?? Our government is broke. Free Trade has failed. Communist China ain’t bailing us out
IMO that time has come and gone. The GOP is corrupt to the core and liberals control all the levers of power and set the rules. They will never surrender power. Time to bury this rotting corpse and start anew.
Karl Rove has become the very picture of “Establishment GOP” so beloved of country club and armchair political (or is that “poo-litical”?)types. But Mr. Rove is woefully uninformed about the aims and ambitions of the so-called T.E.A. party members, who have come to an undeniable truth. There is NO negotiation with committed supporters of the Current Occupant of the White Hut, NO common ground between Bronco Bama’s vision of America and the vision enjoyed even so recently as when Ronald Reagan was President.
Rush Limbaugh, though he claims to be no T.E.A. party member, articulates their point of view just about every day (except when he is talking about the NFL). Rush tries to keep dialogue open between himself and Karl Rove, and for short periods of time, during this dialogue, Mr. Rove sounds almost rational and agreeable. Then Rove goes off the air, and resumes his old message, which is “get along, go along, don’t rock the boat”, the almost guaranteed method to keep the Republican Party subservient to the wants and demands of the “liberal establishment”, because, doncha know, we are all gentlemen here.
The Bush years (41 AND 43) were a steady erosion of American principles, the first with apparent indecisiveness on domestic affairs (particularly tax policy), and the second with apparent inability to exercise a veto pen when it was most needed. The Interregnum, when the Former Occupant of the Oval Office 1993-2001 was so actively scrambling to score chicks and spread around a little populism, was actually a more conservative time for the GOP than either of the two Bush administrations. Actively challenged, the GOP stepped up and DID something with their majorities, unlike the early part of the Bush-43 term. Way too much time and effort by the Republicans then was spent on personal aggrandization and dipping in the pork barrel, giving the Democratz a wholly unjustified opportunity to speak of the “culture of corruption”. As if the Democratz never had any of their own.
Water over the dam now, can’t step in the same river twice. The current crop of Republican congressmen and senators are dismissive of just about anything the T.E.A. people propose as a way to get this country back on track and back to being the America it can and should be.
Fiscally sound, openly encouraging entrepreneurs to exercise their best judgment and accumulated wisdom, and self-reliance once again elevated to a virtue. Home defense and personal health are BOTH the primary concern of the individual, and no third party can in any way provide either in a swift, sure and timely manner. No size police force can respond quickly enough to home invasions or assault out on the street, and no medical review panel or remote bureaucrat can make a determination of the best course for preservation or improvement of the health of the individual.
And just who does this Karl Rove think he is, making deals about who and who cannot be a viable Republican Candidate? He has shut down WAY too many very good potential candidates, either by damning them with faint praise, or actively working for their removal from contention, to favor a more “complaisant” (but not viable) candidates.
Is this only because it is “their turn” for a particular candidate? Or is it an active campaign to make the GOP forever marginal?
The tale of the demise of the Whigs should be instructive.
Agree!
Do you have any reason to believe that the GOPe could stop a mass organized conservative effort to take the reigns of power in the party? More specifically, can you name any party rules that they could use to prevent us from removing them from power?
So true, unless someone can give a rational perspective on how to end it with this oligarchy in place.
The Party of Reagan was temporary, but I believe it still exists at the local level and among the rank and file. At the national level it has returned to being the Loser Party that it was between Hoover and Reagan.
WAS IT ROVE’S INCOMPETENCE ...OR IS HE A JUDAS GOAT ?
To borrow from Rush Limbaugh for those living Riolinda a Judas goat is used to lead US sheeples to the slaughter pen . The Republicans were give a chance to use a wedge issue to split up the democratic party and blew it.
Besides being unable to equate Obama’s socialist schemes particularly his energy policy running up the costs on everything and still is thus forcing those with limited incomes to go on the dole. BTW the angle here is to blame the system not the folks using it. Because they have to. But it’s a signature of Rove’s past performances when with Bush. The demo-coms used it because it fell into “heartless Republicans”.
Blaming Obama and explaining that policy in terms those proverbial LIV’s could understand wasn’t even considered. Refusing to attack Obama was based on MSM polling showing his popularity suggesting an intellectual inability by Rove and the GOPES to rejoin any racial charge.
....Does anybody remember what the Democrats did at their convention ??? First they eliminated any mention of the word GOD...and when they thought twice about doing that they reintroduced the resolution what happened ? They booed God....That resolution was rammed through just like the Affordable Health Care Act ...
Was that fact used in any of the material Rove’s RINOS spewed forth during the 2012 Romney or US senate races his group of GOPES (Government Ofthe People Elite Snobs) used on their hit list ? I like using that acronym because it rhymes with dopes.
Noooo ! They could have used that episode to point out how far to the left the democrat party has hyphenated into; Demo-Coms ...Instead well we don’t like Aikin ...He said what ? OMG OMG he’s unqualified ...If there was a chance he would have been burned at the stake by Rove’s RINOS and the so called “conservative “ talkies spouting Rove’s tripe.
Why ? What drove this ? They were responding to the miss-direction driven by Obama’s instuments of oppression Mainline Socialist Media (MSM).The Aikin or O’Donnells response to a set up phoney issue had nothing to do with any thing that would ever occur in any legislation that would pass their respective desks had they been elected.
THE RESPONSE YOU DIDN’T HEAR WAS THIS “”While at their convention the Democrats were busy denying God . Aikin believes in something like the ten commandments. Including Thou shalt not steal and doesn’t believe that getting elected to office gives you a license to do steal ... Which his opponent seems to have done rather well since being in office. The same thing with Mourdock,O’Donnnell, etc,etc, etc.
That presentation could have been expanded to Reid, Pelosi, and the slew of Demo-Com pigs at the trough. Expanding their personal wealth at the expense of the US taxpayers.
Now his bunch seems to be saying if you hold a religious view don’t run for office... We’re gonna save the Republican party ....to be finished off by Obama and the hypenated democrats..
Roves RINOS wrong for America and wrong for the Republican party...
Yes, I agree. We need more, though.
It is possible that if you took over the Conservative Party, and saw to it they nominated candidates before the Republicans, you could offer the Republican Party the option of nominating the Conservative Party’s already nominated Candidate (who will definitely be on the ballot)and winning, or of splitting the vote with a RINO and definitely losing.
It would be like what the Rinos do, but in reverse. Nominate the real Conservative, or you will definitely lose.
I merely offer all of which you pointed to, in the opposite direction.
We need to make things ourselves.
Now. :)
Good post thanks.
Not sure what side of the “free trade” aisle you’re on, I am switched now to managed trade, because what we have now is one side artificially held down to capture ever more manufacturing - which is now a liability.
We need to manufacture things again. You may disagree or you may agree, not sure which side of this question you are on. Just thought I should present my side clearly.
I have been a big Rush Limbaugh fan forever.
That said, there is one thing about Rush which now is opposite to what it should be IMHO.
Rush is for “free trade”.
If we had anything like “free trade” I would be for it. However what we have is a one-way destruction of every job in America which isn’t nailed down. Ongoing and still underway.
We have China now in the front (top exporter in the world) and unemployment (now what ours used to be.)
We have China taking over, and we have America now rapidly sinking.
This must change.
Rush I am with you 100%, but you need to re-asses your position on “free trade”.
Bring back industry to America.
Thanks.
Trump couldn’t be more right about Rove.
I may open my mind about The Donald’s politics and political sincerity.
“This is personal for Trump because he was a $50,000 donor to Crossroads in 2010. That money could have been put to good use if it was given to groups with fresh ideas.”
$50K??? That is all the claimed billionaire Trump gave to Crossroads and he is complaining? If Trump had given more, maybe he could have influenced a more aggressive ad campaign.
IMO, it was Rove who influenced Romney to tell Trump to sit down and shut up about Barry’s bogus BC and Mark Levin was the loudest and most obnoxious anti-birther left and right on the radio supporting Rove’s approach calling constitutionalists (that would be me and Trump) “idiots.”
Now I find it fascinating that Trump, who has to this point NEVER let a personal insult like Levin’s go unanswered, has now joined with Levin (whom I mostly admire otherwise) to gang up on Rove.
Both Rove and McCain enforced a policy that Barry must always be affirmed to be a nice, honest person who is simply misguided in his policy choices...thus avoiding MSM smears of racism and avoiding offending the sensibilities of low-info moderates needed to win who hold Barry and his family in ignorant affection (well at least the Obama girls can’t help who their parents are but they are props). This didn’t work for two elections in a row.
It is obvious that by pre-agreement before coming on Levin’s show Trump and Levin agreed that Barry’s forged BC would NOT be discussed, even thought it remains the elephant in the room.
In most cases we really don't have free trade for all sorts of gov't regulation on the part of both/all parties.
BTTT!
excellent summary it would sure help if rush was as strident with them as levin is
The idea that the GOPe shoved anyone down anyone's throat is ridiculous. I defy ONE Freeper to provide any evidence that they were in any way forced to vote for someone they didn't want to vote for or were prevented from voting for someone they wanted to vote for.
The sooner reasonable people accept this fact, the sooner we can get on with selecting whatever candidates the majority wants. The GOPe has had ZERO effect on me or my selections.
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