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We fully deserve the nation we have and are handing down to our children.
1 posted on 02/15/2013 6:55:06 PM PST by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Trying to force him to make a deal.


2 posted on 02/15/2013 6:59:38 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: NoLibZone

Trying to force him to make a deal.


3 posted on 02/15/2013 6:59:53 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: NoLibZone

Conrad Black has written extensively on the subject.


4 posted on 02/15/2013 7:00:19 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: NoLibZone

The really insidious thing about this tactic is this: assume you’re innocent of a crime, but you’ve been charge with 50 counts of something, each of which might land you in prison for ten or more years. You’re offered a plea bargain that will net you maybe a year in prison and a fine. Now you’ve got to ask yourself: do I plead guilty, and take the infamy of a felony conviction, or pursue my rights, knowing I’m innocent, and run the risk of having my life completely ruined?


6 posted on 02/15/2013 7:03:05 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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“...the feds have used certain techniques that virtually assure convictions of both the innocent and the guilty, the wealthy and the poor, the violent drug dealer and the white collar defendant, indifferent to the niceties of “due process of law,” particularly the right to effective assistance of legal counsel.

“In order to prevent a defendant from retaining a defense team of his choice, federal prosecutors will first freeze his assets, even though a jury has yet to find them to have been illegally obtained.

“They then bring prosecutions of almost unimaginable complexity, assuring that the financially hobbled defendant’s diminished legal team (or, as is often the case, his court-appointed lawyer) will be too overwhelmed to mount an adequate defense.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/harveysilverglate/2013/01/03/black-whitey-how-the-feds-disable-criminal-defense/

(Conrad Black is mentioned here BTW.)


7 posted on 02/15/2013 7:04:17 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: NoLibZone
Swartz could have been punished with up to 35 years in prison and $1 million in fines

A little bit of truth in advertising might be helpful, if unexpected, from the media.

The statue doesn't matter - what counts is the sentencing guidelines. The sentences contained in the laws passed by congress are mere political theater. A judge is going to have to come up with extraordinary justification if he tries to vary from the much lower dictated guidelines.

9 posted on 02/15/2013 7:09:55 PM PST by PAR35
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“And it was all for downloading millions of academic documents that were available at the M.I.T. Library for a small fee. “

The small fee varied from 13 to 39 dollars. So he stole several tens of millions of dollars worth of someone’s property.

He felt that some types of property should not be owned, but shared with all, unfortunately the owner of the property did not agree.


10 posted on 02/15/2013 7:10:54 PM PST by DBrow
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To: NoLibZone

Federal neo-Nazi prosecutors get away with this crap because Congress refuses to stop it. Congress could rein in these neo-Nazis tomorrow, but it won’t because it suits their quest for money and power.

It now falls to ordinary citizens to end this abuse of power. I know that a number of FReepers don’t like what happened in Libya with Khaddhafi, but the citizens there sure ended the abuse by decorating lampposts with politicians, bureaucrats, lawyers, generals and mercenaries.


14 posted on 02/15/2013 7:19:34 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: NoLibZone; xzins

When I was in Law School I once started an answer to a professor’s question with, “Well, common sense would tell you....” I was shot down immediately and the professor made a comment something along the line that “common sense was not applicable to the law.”

Yeah, no kidding.


15 posted on 02/15/2013 7:19:52 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: NoLibZone

Prosecutors do this all the time, hell, it is such a threat to your liberty, if a private citizen did that to someone they would go to jail for assault or harassment or both.


16 posted on 02/15/2013 7:22:43 PM PST by dila813
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To: NoLibZone

at the same time our Government spends millions in schools fighting “Bullying”


18 posted on 02/15/2013 7:43:34 PM PST by digger48
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To: NoLibZone

While it does need to be looked at, my daddy taught me from a young age: Don’t start none, and there won’t be none, son.


19 posted on 02/15/2013 7:46:29 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: NoLibZone

Meanwhile Jon Corzine walks free


24 posted on 02/15/2013 8:11:28 PM PST by Flick Lives (We're going to be just like the old Soviet Union, but with free cell phones!)
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To: NoLibZone

I was raised from the mid ‘50’s....to respect law and order; courts and cops.

Today......I have as much respect for the courts as I do for cops.....which is .......zero. Nada. Zilch.

They brought it upon themselves. To Hell with all of them.


28 posted on 02/15/2013 8:40:19 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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These guys go out of their way to ruin a productive member of society but look the other way when it comes to illegal aliens. Then they go home and pat themselves on the back. The system is broken.


29 posted on 02/15/2013 8:42:32 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: NoLibZone
And it was all for downloading millions of academic documents that were available at the M.I.T. Library for a small fee.

While everyone was watching NBA and NFL ...

The commies plotted to infiltrate all the institutions, Gramsci style.

The commies plotted to gain control of guns and ammunition -- still in progress.

The commies plotted to gain control of water, for irrigation, for drinking, for watering lawns and gardens -- in progress.

The commies plotted to gain control of K-12 education (they already had control of colleges and universities).

The commies plotted to gain control of food production, distribution, and consumption.

And on, and on, the commies plot to gain control of everything essential to life and liberty.

And the commies plotted to gain control of all research information. Swartz, a budding commie himself, stumbled onto that plot, and experienced an epiphany. Therefore, he had to be eliminated.

Reads like a spy/thriller, almost. If only it were fiction.

38 posted on 02/15/2013 11:32:05 PM PST by meadsjn
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"the rules (Term of service.) Aaron were said to have violated purported to limit the amount of JSTOR (A digital repository that archives content.) that any user was permitted to download. They were rules of contract. Aaron exceeded those limits, the government charged. He therefore breached the implied contract he had with JSTOR. And therefore, the government insists, he was a felon."

"JSTOR -- the only plausible entity "harmed" by Aaron's acts -- pled "no foul." JSTOR did not want Swartz prosecuted. It settled any possible civil claims against Swartz with the simple promise that he return what he had downloaded. Swartz did. JSTOR went away."

"But the government did not. In the weeks before his death, the government reaffirmed what they had been insisting upon for the 18 months before: jail, a felony conviction, and a bankrupting fine, or else Swartz was going to face a bankrupting trial."

nationaljournal.com

39 posted on 02/15/2013 11:41:08 PM PST by Daaave ("The ship will self-destruct in t-minus, ten minutes.")
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To: NoLibZone

“We fully deserve the nation we have and are handing down to our children.”

Yeah, I bet lots of Kapos said the same thing.


49 posted on 02/16/2013 6:34:25 AM PST by Justa
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