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The Chris Dorner Hero-Worship, on Both Sides of the Aisle
The Hayride ^ | Feb. 13, 2013 | MacAoidh

Posted on 02/14/2013 7:59:29 PM PST by Pining_4_TX

The most disheartening event in the country this week wasn’t the State of the Union address, though that was certainly ugly enough.

And it wasn’t the finale of the Chris Dorner rampage, which was certainly horrific enough in its waste of human life.

From the standpoint of the picture it paints for us of America circa 2013, it’s the reaction to Dorner.

The reaction of the Left to Dorner is hideous enough. It’s personified by the vapid, disgusting and degenerate Marc Lamont Hill, who finds deep meaning – and excitement – in Dorner’s senseless mayhem and unhinged online ramblings…

If you look for more Dorner fanboys on the Left, you’ll find them. We’ll not belabor that; there isn’t much new there. As Andrew Klavan noted earlier this week, leftism is a philosophy of violence and it has been ever since Rousseau belched it forth from his spleen.

What’s worse, what’s worst, is that Dorner has his fanboys on the Right.

We now see people calling themselves members of the Tea Party who echo some of the same sentiments the Marc Lamont Hills of the world are bleating.

These sound a bit more sophisticated than the mind-numbingly stupid defense of Dorner as an anti-establishment superhero who satisfies an onanistic, Bill Ayers-esque fantasy about killing cops. But they’re just as ugly.

The “Tea Party” – and we use this description very guardedly – defenses of Los Angeles’ newest cop-killer are that by tracking him down, cornering him and ultimately (we think) bringing about his fiery demise at Big Bear Lake, law enforcement violated Dorner’s 4th Amendment and 6th Amendment rights.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; christopherdorner; constitution; dorner; fff; police; rights; teaparty
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To: ansel12
I’ve seen this enough times over my lifetime

Once is too often, just like one child molestation, one rape, one traffic fatality. All are a sad fact of life that we all have to work at to curb. However, an entire profession shouldn't be smeared for the sins of a few. The officers involved in the shootings of the surfer and women should be dealt with judicially and held responsible criminally and financially.

41 posted on 02/15/2013 12:21:52 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

You can have your personal feelings about the quality of police, but I have a lifetime of experience with them and I have my own opinions, go give the feel good lecture to some youngster.


42 posted on 02/15/2013 12:33:05 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: ansel12
go give the feel good lecture to some youngster.

Lecture? Are you always so dramatic?

43 posted on 02/15/2013 12:53:49 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: Alaska Wolf

LOL, whatever, just find someone else to tell your opinions to about law enforcement, I’m not interested.


44 posted on 02/15/2013 1:33:46 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: ansel12
I’m not interested.

But you had to respond. LOL!

45 posted on 02/15/2013 1:45:26 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: ansel12
Aside from the freaky nature of them just shooting at totally unrelated people's like women and a skinny white guy, there didn't seem to be one wit of concern that seeing two figures in a vehicle indicated an innocent hostage, even if it was the 270 pound giant.

Nor of any concern for the 40 or so bullets that went into innocent people's homes at the end of the street...

Just think of the tragedy had they seen Dorner walking down a sidewalk, or encountered him inside of a Mall...

46 posted on 02/15/2013 3:37:25 AM PST by Iscool (I love animals...barbequed, fried, grilled, stewed,,,,)
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To: dfwgator

Bhaaaaaa!!


47 posted on 02/15/2013 3:50:36 AM PST by ontap
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To: SoldierDad
"the over-reaction by law enforcement leading to members of law enforcement firing on two separate vehicles which had nothing to do with Dorner, severely injuring at least one elderly woman, is also abborant and disgusting."

Tell me what you would do if you were approaching a vehicle that you thought contained a known cop killer with automatic .50 cal weapons, and you had nothing but a handgun?

48 posted on 02/15/2013 6:00:51 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Verify that it was actually him first. The actions of the police officers in these incidents is inexcusable.


49 posted on 02/15/2013 6:10:45 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: Ken H
-- Is it too much to expect our law enforcement agencies to be truthful? --

Yes. The best way to deal with reality is to learn it, and deal with it. Sometimes the police are truthful, sometimes they are not. They are certainly no better than average on that count, and given their position of power in the legal system, I would expect them to be less honest than people outside of the system.

Keep in mind that the system is "self policing," and is loath to admit error.

50 posted on 02/15/2013 6:27:33 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Grandma Conservative
"Verify that it was actually him first."

How do you do that? Wait for a .50 cal slug to the head?

51 posted on 02/15/2013 6:44:50 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: SunkenCiv

And if you point out the more overt posts people insist that it isn’t what it says.
Depends on the meaning of Is and all that apparently.


52 posted on 02/15/2013 6:58:30 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: norwaypinesavage
By actually making visible contact. Dorner was a large black man yet these officers opened fire on people who were not even the same race and in the case of the newspaper deliverers not even the same sex. The Hispanic women were not even driving the same type or color of vehicle as Dorner. If these officers are not even willing to actually verify their target before opening fire, then they should find another line of work. To protect and to serve isn't just a slogan.

What would you have law enforcement do; open fire only everyone driving a truck?
53 posted on 02/15/2013 7:01:59 AM PST by Grandma Conservative (Take back the GOP Now, not in three years or be prepared to vote RINO once again.)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Well drama queen, you do not kill everything in sight and then examine the bodies to see if the criminal was among those killed.

There wasn’t any reason to take out those vehicles and people going about their daily lives, it isn’t as though this was some freakish single case of a huge black man looking just like the bad guy, in the same exact pickup, in a shrinking net, and then attacking the cops in his own case of mistaken identity or fear reaction.

This is civilization, cops can’t just point out pick-up trucks, take out the occupants, and then go see who it was.

The U.S. is not a ‘freefire’ zone.


54 posted on 02/15/2013 11:27:04 AM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: ansel12

“There is nothing wrong with the populace pointing out the failings of law enforcement.”

No, there isn’t, but because mistakes were made does not mean that the cops have malicious intent. As for burning the house, if it is established that the police started that fire, then too bad. Dorner was not going to give up until he had killed more cops.


55 posted on 02/15/2013 11:36:32 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Ken H

First, has it been determined how the fire started? If the police did start the fire, then maybe some did and some didn’t. No, it isn’t too much to expect everyone in government to be truthful, but that hardly justifies the kind of comments some people made about Dorner’s rights. He had every opportunity to give himself up and had no intention of doing so. He wanted to take as many police officers out as he could. Considering the circumstances, the police did a good job.

Yes, there were some people shot by accident, but I wonder how many people could do what police do - make split second decisions that could cost them their lives or the lives of others. It’s a stressful, difficult job, and most cops are in it to help people, not hurt them. If people don’t believe that is true, then that is their problem.


56 posted on 02/15/2013 11:42:10 AM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: mnehring

Dunno.
I think most of them are just disgusted with the LAPD.
There isn’t much to respect about incompetents who can’t tell a blue pick-up from gray one, and can’t tell Hispanic women from a black man.
Dorner himself was scum and deserved to die. But the LAPD carried out a murderous caricature of police work in trying to get him.


57 posted on 02/15/2013 11:49:55 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Cops are government, they are union people, they are corrupt politically, and the work tends to attract insecure individuals who want to be “cops”, the incompetence, corruption, and lack of mission completing strategies and a typical job security, protect the jobs and bureaucracy and the democrat political machine mentality, explains why nothing changes and internal progress and self corrections are practically unheard of.

This was just another widespread debacle that gave the public a glimpse into what most of us know, law enforcement is just another city job.


58 posted on 02/15/2013 1:19:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: norwaypinesavage
Actually, from the story I read, the vehicle the two women were delivering papers from was approaching one of the homes occupied by an individual on Dorner’s hit list, and being “guarded” by law enforcement. Law enforcement wasn't approaching the vehicle. Were I in the shoes of the officers involved in that incident, what would I do? Use better judgment than to fire upon a vehicle in which I was unable to determine who was within the vehicle, and from which no shots were being fired in my direction. Law enforcement is NOT the military, and should NEVER fire their weapons without first determining an imminent threat does exist.
59 posted on 02/15/2013 1:56:53 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SoldierDad
Law enforcement is NOT the military, and should NEVER fire their weapons without first determining an imminent threat does exist.

Exactly. Around here, the police academy teaches candidates to evaluate shoot / don't shoot scenarios with the process of "Ability, Opportunity, & Jeopardy" - a driver in a vehicle does not even meet the first criteria, until that driver demonstrates the intention to use the vehicle as a weapon. Certainly the officers involved in the unjustified shootings should be reevaluated for fitness for duty.

60 posted on 02/15/2013 3:54:41 PM PST by GizmosAndGadgets (How Free Are You In America Today?)
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