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To: Mr Rogers

Does the military hierarchy exist to do investigations as to whether orders are lawful? (Not whether the orders have to be obeyed, but whether they are lawful).

What responsibility did the military have once there was evidence that the man at the top of the chain of command had committed crimes to cover up his documentation (which we now know, from registrar Alvin Onaka’s indirect confirmation, is legally non-valid so that there are no legally-established birth facts for Obama)? Specifically everybody at Lakin’s level or higher - the ones he appealed to for answers - whose oath was to protect and defend the US Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic, which Obama would be if he hid who he was so he could hold office unlawfully (which we now know he did).

When the judge shifted to say that orders are lawful even if they don’t comply with the law, we were in the process of providing evidence to overcome the presumption of regularity - that the statements by Hawaii officials didn’t mean what people presumed they meant. That included information about Virginia Sunahara, the alteration of the 1960-64 birth index to include non-valid names, statements from HDOH workers that Obama’s records were treated differently, etc. The day after I was put in contact with Lakin’s team, to work on providing evidence to overcome the presumption of regularity, my husband had sparking right next to his engine; the sheathing either all decayed uniformly at the same time or else it was cut. Within days my daughter’s computer - which I was using because mine had been fried about a month earlier - was hit with a massive trojan that totally fried it.

And then shortly after that the judge ruled that nothing we came up with would matter anyway. The order was lawful even if Joseph Stalin had ordered it - as long as Joseph Stalin had taken an oath of office (that he would have been breaking even in the act of taking...).

Dang it, I just said I wasn’t going to engage on this. I’ll just offer the parting question again - already knowing that the answer I’ve been given before is “nothing”: What, exactly, is an officer supposed to do, in order to keep his oath to protect and defend the US Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic, when that enemy is in the White House? And why would an officer be required to take that oath if there is no lawful way for him to ever actually keep it? Does the US military really require that its officers lie when they take an oath? Is that the behavior they require from men of honor, worthy to serve and represent the US flag?

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Lord, give me the strength to walk away from this and leave these questions to the consciences of the people who read this. Make me willing and able to shake the dust off my feet rather than waste time doing what only the final Day will ever be able to accomplish with those who are willingly deceived. Amen.


30 posted on 02/13/2013 7:51:11 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

If a military officer is concerned about the legality of his orders, he should ask the legal officer. I’ve done this. During GWB’s time, we had some enlisted who refused to deploy because GWB was not the ‘real’ President. A military lawyer talked with them, and explained they would deploy or do hard time. They deployed.

No ethical lawyer would have advised Lakin to refuse deployment. Lakin was a sucker, played for a fool by people who didn’t care a rat’s rear about him.

Nor is there any evidence that Hawaii is lying when they say Obama was born there. Your idea of proof differs dramatically from a court’s. You are a patriot and have excellent intentions, but your ‘proof’ would get you laughed out of court.


31 posted on 02/13/2013 8:11:21 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: butterdezillion
Does the military hierarchy exist to do investigations as to whether orders are lawful? (Not whether the orders have to be obeyed, but whether they are lawful).

In this case I believe they determined that the orders given to Mr. Lakin by his superior officers were lawful. And Lakin agreed with that in his plea.

68 posted on 02/14/2013 9:54:49 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: butterdezillion
Does the military hierarchy exist to do investigations as to whether orders are lawful? (Not whether the orders have to be obeyed, but whether they are lawful).

In this case I believe they determined that the orders given to Mr. Lakin by his superior officers were lawful. And Lakin agreed with that in his plea.

69 posted on 02/14/2013 9:54:57 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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