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To: Jay Redhawk
Jay Redhawk: "Secession is neither legal or illegal."

It's the difference between withdrawing money from a bank with your ATM card versus a Colt 45 Pistol.
In both cases, you get money, but in the latter case, you will then have the law to answer to, FRiend.

Jay Redhawk: "The Federal government was created by the sovereign states and was meant to be the servant of the states."

If you had ever read the US Constitution, you might have noticed it actually begins with the words:

Jay Redhawk: "Secession is neither expressly denied or granted the states, but is rather to be assumed under the nature of the agreement, and the necessity of the states to ratify this Federation before it would become legitimate."

Wrong again.
Our Founders considered their "compact" to be as "perpetual" and "perfect" as a good marriage, and only to be ended by "mutual consent" (i.e., approval of Congress), or from a serious material breach of contract such as oppression or "usurpation".
For that, they established the Supreme Court to rule on such questions.

Jay Redhawk: "The parent does not ask the child’s permission."

Then you are a very poor parent, FRiend. ;-)

304 posted on 03/03/2013 10:52:13 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

“It’s the difference between withdrawing money from a bank with your ATM card versus a Colt 45 Pistol.
In both cases, you get money, but in the latter case, you will then have the law to answer to, FRiend.”

LOL. No, my friend, it is like walking into a bank and asking for the money from your own account and having the bank stick a .45 in your face and telling you “no.”

“or from a serious material breach of contract such as oppression or “usurpation”.”

This is the part of your own answer you are not getting.

Also my friend, you should not let your children run your household.


306 posted on 03/03/2013 11:05:36 AM PST by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: BroJoeK; Tau Food; Ditto; rockrr

I know many people in academics, and majority of them are on the left when it comes to politics. It is a fact that when history, humanities, and political science scholars and professors are surveyed as to who they believe is the best president in United States history they list Lincoln as number two, behind George Washington, but just ahead of Franklin Roosevelt.

Perhaps there is something to be learned from that. Was Lincoln more like Washington or more like FDR? Perhaps we should ask the left why Lincoln is so admired. By the way I expect Washington to drop out of the top ten as time goes on.


315 posted on 03/03/2013 12:22:48 PM PST by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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