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To: the OlLine Rebel; Neoliberalnot; donmeaker; rockrr
the OlLine Rebel: "Looked for Walt Williams’ column."

These Lincoln quotes from Walter Williams have all been posted on Free Republic threads many times, by our pro-Confederates, as if the quotes were great and shocking revelations, which should convince everyone that Lincoln was a monster, not a saint.

In fact, Lincoln's quotes simply reflect the views of your average anti-slavery northerner in those days.
Yes, most northerners hated slavery, but not because they loved slaves, just the opposite.

They hated the institution of slavery because it represented a clear and growing competitive threat to their own high-priced "free labor".
Any work which slaves could do well, drove down the value and drove out the work of relatively unskilled white workers.

And over many years slaves became increasingly valuable, expanding into many different lines of work, driving out free white workers.
That's why northerners would not stand for letting slavery expand into states or territories where it did not already exist.

So Lincoln's quotes are unremarkable for his time.
But what is notable is that: mild as Lincoln's views were towards slavery, they were totally unacceptable to the Southern Slave-Power.
Those people called Lincoln a "Black Republican", warned that if he were elected president, they would secede, and then immediately did so, beginning the process within a few days in early November 1860.

But the one thing Williams said which I'm certain is flat-out wrong comes at the very end:

This subject has been debated many times on these threads, by people more knowledgeable than I am, but the bottom line is that (to pick a year, say in 1859), the nation's largest ports were New York, Philadelphia, Boston & Baltimore all serving populous northern states (Baltimore served Ohio and points west via the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad).
Yes, Southern ports like New Orleans and Charleston were somewhat important, but they in no possible way accounted for, in William's words "75% of tariffs in 1859".
A better estimate would be 25%.

So William's suggestion that Civil War was all or only about tariffs, amounts to nothing more than pro-Confederate propaganda.

244 posted on 02/26/2013 2:55:01 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

Save your breath. No one will ever convince me that killing my fellow Americans is justified to satiate the lust for power and money , the hallmarks of every politician lawyer who can’t be satisfied until they squeeze the citizenry for more and use them for their personal aggrandizement.


247 posted on 02/26/2013 11:04:51 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: BroJoeK
So William's suggestion that Civil War was all or only about tariffs, amounts to nothing more than pro-Confederate propaganda.

Agree. While I generally agree with Williams on contemporary economics (he is a bit to far a Libertarian for my tastes, but he is more right than wrong) he makes a fool of himself on Civil War history especially when his source for statistics is a totally discarded source like Thomas DiLorenzo.

278 posted on 02/28/2013 6:06:34 PM PST by Ditto
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