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To: BroJoeK

BTW, thank you for so systematically reminding me how similar the AmRevWar was to this. Yet 1 is OK and the other is not. Hmmm.


170 posted on 02/22/2013 8:09:36 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
the OlLine Rebel: "...thank you for so systematically reminding me how similar the AmRevWar was to this.
Yet 1 is OK and the other is not. Hmmm."

Well, you're quite welcome, but it's obviously a case of people seeing just what they want to see.

I'd say that, except in the fact of war between opposing forces, there is no comparison between the American Revolution and Civil War, for examples:

  1. The Revolution was fought after many years of attempted negotiations, where the colonists (i.e., Ben Franklin) hoped to gain representation in Parliament -- you remember, "no taxation without representation"?

    By stark contrast the Southern Slave Power was vastly over represented and had dominated Federal Government since the founding of the republic.
    Indeed, Lincoln was the first mildly anti-slavery president ever elected.

  2. A major complaint of our Founders in 1775 was taxes too high, especially "taxation without representation".

    By stark contrast, in 1860 Federal tariffs on slave-states imports were the same as in 1792, and had been reduced by over half since 1830.

  3. Neither Britain nor the colonists ever formally declared war on the other, but Brits certainly began warfare by assaulting to seize colonists armories (Lexington, Concord).

    By stark contrast, the Confederacy did formally declare war on the United States (May 6, 1861) after fully six months of assaulting and seizing Federal armories, arsenals, forts, ships, mints, etc.

  4. The Declaration of Independence includes a long list of actual grievances against the king, none of which he would negotiate.

    By stark contrast, the first secessionists documents list only one major reason for secession: their fear of what newly elected mildly anti-slavery Republican President Lincoln might do some time in the future to slow the growth and expansion of slavery.
    Indeed, their only major actual complaint was the Federal government hadn't done enough to enforce Federal fugitive slave laws.

This list goes on and on, so the bottom line is: the only way to compare the starts of Revolution and Civil Wars would be to give the Confederacy the part of the Brits, and the Union that of our long-suffering Founding Fathers.
Then it might make a little sense... ;-)

173 posted on 02/23/2013 4:05:50 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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