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Senators seek back room deal on firearm background checks (Manchin and Coburn are turncoat traitors)
http://www.gopusa.com ^ | February 8, 2013 | Associated Press

Posted on 02/10/2013 2:31:28 PM PST by NKP_Vet

WASHINGTON - A bipartisan quartet of senators, including two National Rifle Association members and two with "F" ratings from the potent firearms lobby, are quietly trying to find a compromise on expanding the requirement for gun-sale background checks.

A deal, given a good chance by several participants and lobbyists, could add formidable political momentum to one of the key elements of President Barack Obama's gun control plan. Currently, background checks are required only for sales by the nation's 55,000 federally licensed gun dealers, but not for gun show, person-to-person sales or other private transactions.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; banglist; bhobanglist; guncontrol; nra; secondamendment
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To: NKP_Vet
The Federal Government, e.g. moochers party (liberal socialist) do not give a $hit if nothing passes on “gun control” so long as the government gets a “federal data base” and “registration” of all American firearms for future confiscation and harassment of any American they (government) decides should or should not possess a weapon. As it currently stands, the government simply does not know what firearms are in the United States, where they all are, and who is in possession of them.

The Freddy’s can't confiscate what they do not know exists or who has them! The 25 Executive Orders started the federal government's data mining on all firearms in the United States. They will collect intelligence from every source imaginable, e.g. schools, public blogs, private emails, Americans doctors, mental health, and the list goes on and on. What the Freddy’s desperately need immediately, is the green light from US Congress to do exactly what the Freddy’s are already doing. An OK from the socialist in Congress will simply bring the federal registry of American Firearms into the public light. The dog and pony show about a ban on assault weapons and 30 round mags is nothing more than Americans watching the left hand while the right hand takes your firearms from you through attrition and confiscation. The feds will start with so called “felons” and the American people will clap and praise the feds for doing such a wonderful job, at least, until the feds make a determination that Tea Party members should not possess firearms as well!

Once the Freddy’s have the federal registry data base, it will spell the end of Americans possessing any type of firearm, because the Freddy’s deciding who is worthy and who is not worthy to possess a firearm will result in no American possessing a firearm unless you are working for the government!

All the government wants is the federal registry data base, enough said, it will be all down hill from there! Listen to the old media, they will tell you what is really going on: “the majority of Americans support [closing the loophole at gun shows]” What the hell does that mean, it means, the federal government wants every American to go to the federal government and ask permission to purchase or sell a firearm, guess what, back door federal registry and a data base for those purchases!

Stop this madness it its tracks without compromise, or Americans will no longer be able to purchase or sell a firearm without first “permission” from the federal government! Back door registration and a federal data base so the Freddy’s can determine if you as an American are qualified under federal standards!

eight Deuce on the loose!

21 posted on 02/10/2013 3:19:28 PM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fury From the Sky")
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To: NKP_Vet

Coburn has been going Liberal RINO since he supported McCain very early in 2008 primary campaign.....he needs to be primaried out next time out. Not surprised he is working for gun control


22 posted on 02/10/2013 3:20:34 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: NKP_Vet

I once thought that Senator Coburn was the logical heir to Jesse Helms as a consistent conservative leader, but as time has passed, I find him less and less useful. That’s why I will be glad to see him bow out in 2014; I think he said he would only serve two terms, or has he changed his mind?


23 posted on 02/10/2013 3:26:13 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Paladin2
Sounds unenforceable.

First thought that entered my head.

25 posted on 02/10/2013 3:43:40 PM PST by onona (KCCO, and mind the gap)
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To: Venturer
When they give Obama a background check, I will be happy to give them mine.Especially if they find out why his SS number belongs to a dead man.

Pretty much says it all...

26 posted on 02/10/2013 3:47:47 PM PST by onona (KCCO, and mind the gap)
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To: allblues

You won’t even get the thank you.


27 posted on 02/10/2013 3:47:59 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: onona

***** “When they give Obama a background check, I will be happy to give them mine.Especially if they find out why his SS number belongs to a dead man.

Pretty much says it all... “ *****

Where did Zero get his Shotgun? I thought DC was a Gun Free Zone.

TT


28 posted on 02/10/2013 3:55:33 PM PST by TexasTransplant (“Live every day as your last...one day you will be right.”)
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To: NKP_Vet
Although I oppose any compromise with the gun-grabbers, I think it would be interesting to publicly offer them one (the ones suggested on this thread are good choices) and force them to say yay or nay. If the game were played right they could be squeezed into admitting their true desire: universal registration. I want them to have to defend their true position, not the candy-coated one they present to the public.
29 posted on 02/10/2013 3:58:26 PM PST by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

No compromise. I did not join the NRA just to have them “incremental” us into losing more gun rights.

I have purchased all my weapons via an FFL, so I gain nothing by saying that. There is a paper trail for the small collection of weapons that I have possess.

If I thought the politicians were genuinely searching for a way to prevent criminals from getting guns I would be more inclined to encourage my representative to discuss expanded instant background checks; however, I do not trust the people pushing this initiative. These people have shown their true colors and really are just trying to kill the 2nd Amendment via 1000 paper cuts. I am in no mood to compromise with these obvious firearms prohibitionists. Stop infringing on the rights of law-abiding Americans. If you want to make a real difference with gun violence, aggressively arrest\detain, prosecute, and imprison the many gang-bangers, career criminals, and mentally unstable people out there who are barred by current law from owning guns and commit almost all of nation’s gun crime. Leave the rest of us alone.


30 posted on 02/10/2013 4:01:01 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: paratrooper82

I too think that the database is their real goal. It’s possible that they won’t use it for complete confiscation; rather, they may use it for selective confiscation—only going after “enemies”. For example, the bodyguards of Hollywood lefties won’t be hassled.


31 posted on 02/10/2013 4:01:55 PM PST by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: NKP_Vet

If we can limit the number of rounds in a firearm magazine, we can limit the number of pages in a Hustler magazine. The same specious utilitarian logic that applies to the first also applies to the second.


32 posted on 02/10/2013 4:08:58 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: coloradan

Amen!


33 posted on 02/10/2013 4:30:14 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Tyranny -> Genocide)
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To: NKP_Vet

Whatever check they require, let’s apply it to voting in federal elections.


34 posted on 02/10/2013 4:31:49 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Tyranny -> Genocide)
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To: NKP_Vet

We can’t even get a “Background” check on the current inhabitant of the White House.


35 posted on 02/10/2013 4:39:45 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: TRY ONE

Yeah, you’re correct. If the senate vote on upcoming gun control legislation should appear to be within one or two Dem’s short of passing you can be sure that Joe Manchin and Tom Colburn will have their tails twisted till they squel like nutted hogs. And, they will be turned and vote the Dem’s over the top. You can make book on this......


36 posted on 02/10/2013 4:44:24 PM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: vladimir998

As Rush Limbaugh famously said “If you have a D after your name you are the enemy.”


37 posted on 02/10/2013 4:46:45 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: hitkicker

Of course a database is their main goal. They get that and the rest is history............

“This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!” ~Adolph Hitler, 1935


38 posted on 02/10/2013 4:57:14 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: snuffy smiff
That's why I belong to Gun Owners of America instead. They don't compromise on the 2A, no chipping away, decade after decade. We've already agreed to too many restrictions, there never should have been any, especially of the paperwork/registration/permit kind, just laying down a red carpet for confiscation.
39 posted on 02/10/2013 5:12:55 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: NKP_Vet

They want a background check, fine lets use a voter registration card. If you are law abiding and sane enough to vote then you can surely purchase a firearm. Show your card make your purchase and be on your way.


40 posted on 02/10/2013 5:15:55 PM PST by Jed Eckert (Wolverines!!)
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