BlueDragon~ :” Now that your question has been answered ...”
No - the question was NOT answered !
I specificly asked whether or not he had attended a temple ceremony , or even been in a Temple ?
I didn’t inquire if he wore ‘magic underware’ , or any other question of dogma or tradition.
He made a declaratory statement that hate was taught in the Temple.
I merely asked if he had ever attended a Temple ceremony , or if he had ever been in one.
Was it too simple a question, or confusing ?
I repeat the question to aMorePerfectUnion : Have you ever participated in a Temple ceremony , or even been there , inside ?
Check the box : (yes __ ) or (No __)
Respectfully Titled Irish Kilt
Actually, I did answer. Please reread. That is my answer.
As he put it;
My definition was satire, given how frequently, and in unison, mormons shout hatred, instead of recognizing the simple truth that they are just teaching heresies.
Thank you (I think) for answering my own question posed to you concerning your oen participation in mormon temple ceremony, and such ceremony prior to 1990. If I got the meaning of the reply correct for I had to sort-of read between the lines a bit. Nonetheless, as long as overall meanings can be understood, it matters little prcisely how one arrives.
What of endowment ceremonies themselves? Do they give anything to the participant? If so, what exactly is "endowed"?
What of the pre-1990 ceremonies? Didn't they contain a little skit about non-Mormon preachers of the Gospel being in pay of the devil? If so, then that could be seen as teaching hatred "in a temple ceremony".
I'll offer you this; I'll forget I asked about what does transpire in such ceremonies [for the time being] trading that for another question much more basic to Mormonism:
Mormons claim their gospel is restored gospel. This assumes such a gospel existed before, but was lost for centuries, hidden until Joseph Smith rediscovered it. WHAT is this so-called "restored gospel". What are the precise elements which Smith by his own claim "restored"? Jesus Christ's death on the cross? No, that can't be it, for all Christians preach the cross. It can't be the ressurection either, for without the ressurection the death on the cross becomes meaningless, as is also widely preached.WHAT IS the "restored Gospel"? What makes it [according to Mormons] the only "true" Gospel?
Here's your big chance. A mission field, right here on the FR RF.
What Mormon is up to answering the question?
#1: Have you ever been in the White House?
If not, then how do you know Bill Clinton was doing anything specific with cigars or his body parts with a given intern?
#2: Was hate taught in the Mormon temple??? I have never been in a Mormon temple, but I can say with 100% certainty that indeed hate was taught in Mormon temples...Now I need to add a caveat here...in that I can categorically state this was true through 1927...until the Mormon temple oath of vengeance was removed...
(Next post, I'll add a comment about yet another Mormon temple script -- imbedded until 1992 -- where a case could be made that hate vs. Protestant ministers was taught there as well...But let's take care of this one thing at a time):
Another radical oath which was in the temple ceremony for over 80 years was so potentially dangerous that it was completely removed in 1927. Just after the turn of the century, Mormon leaders were questioned in court at great length concerning this oath by the United States Government. The investigation produced eye witness accounts which verified that the oath of vengeance against the United States was an obligation received by Temple Mormons in substantially these words: "You and each of you do covenant and promise that you will pray and never cease to pray Almighty God to avenge the blood of the prophets upon this nation, and that you will teach the same to your children and to your children's children unto the third and fourth generation." (The Reed Smoot Case, vol. 4, pp. 495-496)
Source: The Mormon Temple
Whereas "vengeance is mine" saith the Lord...Mormons were committed in oath -- to the third and fourth generations rolling out from the late 1920s...as a sacred obligation before their gods to commit blood vengeances upon the United States.
It was Joseph Smith himself -- while he was still alive -- who was threatening vengeance upon Missouri -- and later the nation -- thru the following words that became (in part) encrypted into Lds temple rituals thru 1927:
"...throwing down the towers of mine enemies that may be upon them, and scattering their watchmen, and avenging me of mine enemies unto the third and fourth generation...But first let my army [the Mormon militia] become very great...and that her banners may be terrible unto all nations..." (Lds "scripture" -- Doctrine & Covenants 105:30-31)
Next post: Info on the Mormon temple script, finally removed in 1992, that openly labeled Protestant ministers as lackeys of Satan...
Round II: Was hate taught in the Mormon temple??? I have never been in a Mormon temple, but I can say with 100% certainty that indeed bigotry toward Protestant ministers was taught in Mormon temples into the beginning of the 1990s...
Since the days of Joseph Smith the temple ceremony contained a segment referred to as "The Lone and Dreary World," which portrayed preachers as being employed by the devil. The following dialog is given:
LUCIFER: Do you preach the orthodox religion?
PREACHER: Yes, that is what I preach.
LUCIFER: If you will preach your orthodox religion to these people and convert them, I will pay you well.
PREACHER: I will do my best.
This mocking of non-Mormon preachers and orthodox doctrine caused so much criticism against the Mormon Church that Mormon leaders determined that now God wanted this "sacred" portion of the ceremony removed.
Source: The Mormon Temple
Tell us, T.I.K...would you describe this Mormon temple ceremonial segment as "loving" toward the Protestant faith???
Yes? No? (I expect an answer...the same kind of answers you were demanding in your repeated posts...) And while you're at it...Do you think the oath from my last post was "hateful" -- or not?
One note: In my last post, I said this was removed in 1992...which is what I had recalled...The link I cite above says that this segment was removed April 10, 1990...so I am amending the 1992 date to 1990.