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Mormon 101, X-rated sex details collide at Arias trial
Fox News ^ | Feb. 6, 2013

Posted on 02/10/2013 10:20:46 AM PST by Colofornian

Woman accused of brutally murdering boyfriend describes religious conversion and sexual relationship...

(Excerpt) Read more at video.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; inman; jodiarias; lds; mormon; travisalexander
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To: houeto

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob

Hie and read.


101 posted on 02/11/2013 11:18:03 AM PST by freedomlover
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To: Elsie
Unless you imagine that you mean something different than what you write, you should be ok.
102 posted on 02/11/2013 11:28:30 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Well when your words have no real meaning you would...


103 posted on 02/11/2013 11:59:50 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

Well, if my words have no meaning (laughable, because I’ve already explained them—but I’ll play along), then why are you “participating” with me? Wouldn’t that be a “waste of time?”


104 posted on 02/11/2013 12:02:23 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Actually, I did answer. Please reread. That is my answer.


105 posted on 02/11/2013 12:04:54 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; aMorePerfectUnion
You claim he didn't answer your question. Yet he did provide answer that addressed the substance of the question although not in yes/no form. Still, there was enough material (more than enough, in reality) to safely assume the answer would have to absolutely be "no", or else he would be one tricky Mormon (never wearing the temple garments) or an outsider who was able to sneek in.

As he put it;

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Thank you (I think) for answering my own question posed to you concerning your oen participation in mormon temple ceremony, and such ceremony prior to 1990. If I got the meaning of the reply correct for I had to sort-of read between the lines a bit. Nonetheless, as long as overall meanings can be understood, it matters little prcisely how one arrives.

What of endowment ceremonies themselves? Do they give anything to the participant? If so, what exactly is "endowed"?

What of the pre-1990 ceremonies? Didn't they contain a little skit about non-Mormon preachers of the Gospel being in pay of the devil? If so, then that could be seen as teaching hatred "in a temple ceremony".

I'll offer you this; I'll forget I asked about what does transpire in such ceremonies [for the time being] trading that for another question much more basic to Mormonism:

Mormons claim their gospel is restored gospel. This assumes such a gospel existed before, but was lost for centuries, hidden until Joseph Smith rediscovered it. WHAT is this so-called "restored gospel". What are the precise elements which Smith by his own claim "restored"? Jesus Christ's death on the cross? No, that can't be it, for all Christians preach the cross. It can't be the ressurection either, for without the ressurection the death on the cross becomes meaningless, as is also widely preached.

WHAT IS the "restored Gospel"? What makes it [according to Mormons] the only "true" Gospel?

Here's your big chance. A mission field, right here on the FR RF.

What Mormon is up to answering the question?

106 posted on 02/11/2013 12:37:01 PM PST by BlueDragon (here kitty, kitty, kitty....)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

aMorePerfectUnion~:” Actually, I did answer. Please reread. That is my answer.”

The question asked was: “ “ Have you ever participated in a “Temple ceremony” , or even been there , inside ?”
Check the box : (yes __ ) or (No __)

Your comment:”I have never been a part of the cult collective” , merely begs the original question .
I didn’t ask about membership , your friends, or whether “how frequently, and in unison, mormons shout hatred..” .
I didn’t ask about “magic underwear”.. “gone on a mission”.. or the status of God in Heaven , or about heresy.

You made a statement about ‘Mormons’ teaching hate in the Temple .
I don’t have to rely on tracts , other publications , or personal friends and acquaintances
According to my own personal expierience and belief, that statement is simply not true !

Accept it , or , reject it ~ you’re choice.
I still respect you and your ability to disagree .
Respectfuly


107 posted on 02/11/2013 12:48:13 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (When deadly force is seconds away ,... police are only 8 minutes away)
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To: BlueDragon

BlueDragon ~ :” You claim he didn’t answer your question. Yet he did provide answer that addressed the substance of the question although not in yes/no form. “

It’s called “begging the question”
He made a direct statement about “hatred “ taught in the Temple.
I asked a direct question ~ I guess I expected a direct answer.
All I got was inference ..
I guess my 29 years in law enforcement is still a character flaw .
Respectfuly


108 posted on 02/11/2013 12:54:45 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (When deadly force is seconds away ,... police are only 8 minutes away)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

TIK,
You still don’t seem to understand my post. Your call.
ampu


109 posted on 02/11/2013 12:57:48 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

aMorePerfectUnion ~:” You still don’t seem to understand my post. Your call.”

I understand inference
I also understand hearsay , second-hand hearsay, etc., ad nauseaum
I just don’t like misinformation
I am done with it
Respectfuly ..


110 posted on 02/11/2013 1:08:54 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (When deadly force is seconds away ,... police are only 8 minutes away)
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To: 1rudeboy

Not a waste of time at all. Running you through hoops makes a point.


111 posted on 02/11/2013 1:12:45 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: ejonesie22

Over the choice of a word? You flatter yourself.


112 posted on 02/11/2013 1:14:03 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: BlueDragon
What Mormon is up to answering the question?

Keep your expectations low...

113 posted on 02/11/2013 1:28:12 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Oh it goes beyond that...


114 posted on 02/11/2013 1:30:35 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

“I understand inference
I also understand hearsay , second-hand hearsay, etc., ad nauseaum
I just don’t like misinformation
I am done with it
Respectfuly ..”

Respectfully, you should add basic english and satire to your list for 2013.
It will stand you in good stead here on FR.


115 posted on 02/11/2013 1:42:00 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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To: BlueDragon
I'll offer you this; I'll forget I asked about what does transpire in such ceremonies [for the time being] trading that for another question much more basic to Mormonism:

WHICH 'mormons'?

SLC makes the claim that ONLY they are the 'true' MORMONs; while MANY groups use the Book of MORMON as scripture in one way or another.

116 posted on 02/11/2013 1:44:23 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
According to my own personal expierience and belief, that statement is simply not true !

You've mentioned experince; so are we to assume that you ARE a MORMON; from this statement?

117 posted on 02/11/2013 1:46:17 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
I guess my 29 years in law enforcement is still a character flaw .

Interesting statement; considering your tagline.

118 posted on 02/11/2013 1:48:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; aMorePerfectUnion
Beetle Bailey Cartoon for Feb/11/2013
119 posted on 02/11/2013 1:51:33 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

I just finished my workday and am feeling generous toward you. Let me elaborate:

Here is my original post you inquired about:

“Now I’m curious: What is “hate therapy”? Learning how to hate correctly?”

“Hate therapy is a Temple ceremony that imbues mormons with the believe anyone who isn’t a mormon must hate them. This is easier than dealing with facts, evidence or logic to evaluate the claims of mormonism, like:”

You will please not I did not say mormons “teach hate” in Temple ceremonies.

I said they teach “hate therapy”... and I explained what that means.

I also gave you all the information needed to know I’ve never been a member of the cult, so clearly I could have participated in a cult-only ceremony in a mormonic temple.

That you refused to read correctly and refused to use deductive reasoning was your call.

That was easy!


120 posted on 02/11/2013 1:55:28 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international, gone independent. Gone.)
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