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To: driftdiver

OK. How much more in taxes are you willing to pay to keep this from happening? We either gut the military, gut Medicare, or gut Social Security, increase the deficit, or raise taxes. Those are the options. pick one.


9 posted on 02/10/2013 5:22:41 AM PST by garbanzo (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine)
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To: garbanzo

Defund Michelle’s staff. Defund Congress’ staff and get rid of Congress members’ pensions; they’re not doing anything anyway. Defund the DOJ; they’re all in bed with the crooks anyway. Limit Obama’s travel to essentials. Ditch Obamacare and all its extra IRS agents...

They should start with the elements that have won the least trust from the public and go from there...

(Note: I haven’t thought this through. This is just a quick suggestion. The Constitution authorizes certain things for the feds to be doing, and the one thing it MANDATES the feds to do is provide security from invasion. That’s the military. The military should be the one thing left standing after all the other cuts have happened. If we followed this, maybe we would end up in compliance with the 10th Amendment, after all...)


10 posted on 02/10/2013 5:37:47 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: garbanzo

You left one option out. Defense spending is about 19% of discretionary spending but is taking 50% of the hit. Making the cut proportional to spending would help too.


11 posted on 02/10/2013 5:42:19 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: garbanzo
We either gut the military, gut Medicare, or gut Social Security, increase the deficit, or raise taxes. Those are the options. pick one.

Really? Those are our only choices? Personally, I would start by gutting the EPA and about a dozen other worthless and or dangerous agencies first. The side benefit would be the return of a robust economy. How about we cut back on the countless muslim outreach programs both at home and abroad? obama wants to give all of the non-military federal employees a raise. There are other places to cut spending without gutting anything that you suggest.

20 posted on 02/10/2013 6:54:35 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: garbanzo

No, that isn’t all the options! There are thousands of federal agencies that can be cut, furloughed, or closed completely, and there will be little difference in how the nation proceeds. Some of those czars of Obama’s could be finding the double ups, the waste, the no longer needed programs that could be cut.

The military, Medicare, and SS does not need to be at the top of the list. The Dems do this on purpose. They know it touches nerves of the American people.


27 posted on 02/10/2013 11:08:25 AM PST by jch10 (Hey GOP! Only Conservatives get my vote.)
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To: garbanzo
Well, 2 out of 3 of what you mentioned are nowhere to be found in the Constitution, so it might be good to look there first.

If that is found unpalatable, the Dept of Ed, and Dept of Energy, the TSA, the DEA, FBI, ATF, HHS, and EPA are an acceptable start; none of the above are found in the Constitution. FHA, Sect 8, WIC, 0Care, and a whole host of gov't entitlement programs need to go. From there, take a look at some of the nonsense that is foisted on the military, such as "green" vehicles and such. - Reducing the deficit.

Repealing the 16th Amendment and taxing consumption vice production would help increase the tax base in a non-punitive manner.....also insuring the illegales "pay their fair share" too.

For good measure, repeal the 17th Amendment so that state legislatures pick their Senators, which will go a long way to cut down on fed.gov using the purse strings to bully the states and enabling the states to actually retain their rights under the 10th Amendment.

No need to undercut the one expenditure under the Constitution that defends to the death all other rights (for those of you quick to point out the 2A, enumerating our God given unalienable right to keep and bear arms, costs the taxpayer nothing as this is an individual right and expense; it is not an expenditure).

30 posted on 02/10/2013 12:07:00 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: garbanzo

Bullshit, typical lib speak. How about cutting the EPA, DEA, and all the other money eating programs that are so dear to our politicians. How about Congress taking a pay cut, how about the fraud of Welfare, money to countries that hate us? Providing defense of our Country and securing our borders is provided in the Constitution, where is it said we should provide men and money to defend other countries? I’m sick of these scare tactics from both parties .


31 posted on 02/10/2013 2:42:58 PM PST by gunner03
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