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Details emerge in LAPD's mistaken shooting of newspaper carriers
Los Angeles Times ^ | February 8, 2013 | Joel Rubin, Angel Jennings and Andrew Blankstein

Posted on 02/09/2013 10:52:48 PM PST by El Gato

The women were victims of 'a tragic misinterpretation' by officers working under 'incredible tension,' LAPD Chief Charlie Beck says.

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at least seven officers opened fire. On Friday, the street was pockmarked with bullet holes in cars, trees, garage doors and roofs

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; lapd; lapdoutofcontrol; lapdshootingmistake; lefshootingmistake
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To: GeronL

181 posted on 02/10/2013 1:20:02 PM PST by abb
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To: Cuttnhorse

they were shooting to kill without bothering to ID what they are shooting at

that should be counted as attempted murder


182 posted on 02/10/2013 1:21:55 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: abb

lol!!

Nobody is safe! Not even a kid on a big wheel!


183 posted on 02/10/2013 1:32:25 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Cuttnhorse
Attempted Murder??? Are you kidding? Gross stupidity does not translate into murder.

For what purpose did the seven cops fire into the truck?

184 posted on 02/10/2013 2:25:06 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker; GeronL
For what purpose did the seven cops fire into the truck?

Gross stupidity...several of you seem to think cops get charged with murder for discharging their firearms in stupid mistakes they make...just out of curiosity, when was the last time any LEO was actually charged and convicted of murder in an accidental shooting incident?

Crap, they got away with Waco; they got away with Ruby Ridge...do you actually think these idiots are going to be charged with attempted murder??
Get real.

185 posted on 02/10/2013 2:34:39 PM PST by Cuttnhorse (God made man but Sam Colt made them equal)
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To: null and void
Dorner knew who he was shooting at, intended to target them, and hit his targets.

The seven cops 'thought' they knew at whom there were firing. Why else would they have opened fire?

They shot to kill. Why else did they shoot at the cab area?

They hit their intended target. One lady suffered two gunshot wounds to the back of her upper torso.

Other than them not properly identifying their targets before they opened fire and the fact that Dorner's target died at his hand and these ladies escaped with their lives, I can see no difference between their actions and Dorner's.

186 posted on 02/10/2013 2:35:15 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Cuttnhorse

Going to be?

NO!

Should be?

Yes.


187 posted on 02/10/2013 2:41:44 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Cuttnhorse
Attempted Murder??? Are you kidding? Gross stupidity does not translate into murder.

If I go down to town right now, find some car driving slowly away from me at the store and start shooting into the car where the driver is sitting - say, 15 to 20 shots, what charges do you think I will be brought up on?

188 posted on 02/10/2013 2:42:07 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Cuttnhorse
Gross stupidity...several of you seem to think cops get charged with murder for discharging their firearms in stupid mistakes they make...just out of curiosity, when was the last time any LEO was actually charged and convicted of murder in an accidental shooting incident?

What was their intention? That is the definition of attempted murder. This was not an accidental shooting as you are claiming.

A DEA agent shooting himself in the leg while talking to a classroom full of students is gross stupidity.

Seven cops pumping lead into the cab of a pickup truck without first identifying the target or giving a verbal warning is attempted murder.

Crap, they got away with Waco; they got away with Ruby Ridge...do you actually think these idiots are going to be charged with attempted murder?? Get real.

Just because the DA isn't going to charge them does not change their intent when they opened fire.

Was this an accidental shooing? If not, then what was their intent when they opened fire?

189 posted on 02/10/2013 2:44:29 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Government should be afraid of the people)
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To: Sirius Lee

If you are a cop...no charges


190 posted on 02/10/2013 2:50:07 PM PST by Cuttnhorse (God made man but Sam Colt made them equal)
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To: Cuttnhorse

this was no accident. This was done on purpose and they knew perfectly well what they were doing when they did it.

They had no reason to even draw their guns. They were not shot at or endangered by that vehicle. If they really gave no warning or orders and simply started shooting they’d be lawbreakers even if it was the suspect.


191 posted on 02/10/2013 2:52:49 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Cuttnhorse

cops should be held to the same standard as everyone else, they ARE civilian law enforcement after all. They are not immune to the law.


192 posted on 02/10/2013 2:54:58 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL
The same standard? Don't they have more training? Aren't they more knowledgeable in the law? Are they not selected as the best of the best from a host of applicants? Do they not have abundant day-to-day exposure to complex and potentially dangerous situations and the skills to handle them?

Should they be no smarter, wiser, more knowledgeable, more skilled and more responsible than, say the kid that stocks the shelves at the corner grocery?

No, my FRiend, they must be held to a higher standard, unless they expect to be paid stock clerk wages, and have a stock clerk's benefits package, and expect everyone to hold them in the same high regard as a stock clerk, if they do, they rate the same standards.

They want more? We expect and deserve more.

193 posted on 02/10/2013 3:11:19 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: null and void
Don't they have more training? Aren't they more knowledgeable in the law? Are they not selected as the best of the best from a host of applicants?

Well, it's getting harder to answer those questions!

194 posted on 02/10/2013 3:14:27 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

*ouch* point conceded...


195 posted on 02/10/2013 3:17:43 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: null and void

***** I’m sure we can trust thousands of random citizens to not shoot at little old grey haired hispanic women.” ******

Seems like it ... 1850’s till now Vigilantes 0.... LAPD 2

We shall see

TT


196 posted on 02/10/2013 3:19:59 PM PST by TexasTransplant (“Live every day as your last...one day you will be right.”)
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To: mylife

mylife ~:”You mentioned “herd mentality”
I have come to the conclusion that most humans are pack animals.
For all of our talk of Freedom, it is the empirical truth.”

Unfortunately ,..yes ,” herd mentality” is an empirical truth.
But also remember:
“ you are known by the company that you keep”
“what Obama wants for America: Only outlaws with guns, the rest of us ->TARGETS.
“ calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option.” ~ Sheriff David Clark, Milwaukee County S. O.
“we are responsible, in a lot of cases for our own personal safety” ~ Jacob Schneider firearms instructor


197 posted on 02/10/2013 3:26:57 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (When deadly force is seconds away ,... police are only 8 minutes away)
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To: GeronL

http://www.scpr.org/news/2013/02/10/35901/attorneys-call-mistaken-identity-police-shooting-t/
UPDATED: Women wounded by LAPD officers out of hospital and other updates in cases of mistaken identity in LAPD manhunt

http://redondobeach.patch.com/articles/torrance-shooting-unbridled-police-lawlessness-says-attorney
Torrance Shooting ‘Unbridled Police Lawlessness,’ Says Attorney


198 posted on 02/10/2013 3:34:30 PM PST by abb
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To: El Gato
The women were victims of 'a tragic misinterpretation' by officers working under 'incredible tension,' LAPD Chief Charlie Beck says.

I'll bear that in mind next time I shoot one of theirs.

199 posted on 02/10/2013 3:40:23 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

exactly, how often does that happen to you?
/sarc


200 posted on 02/10/2013 3:41:46 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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