State lawmakers propose tough gun laws - Gun advocates pledge fight over California proposals (CA)

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | February 7, 2013 | Wyatt Buchanan

[neverdem]

California would significantly restrict gun use and ownership, including major new bans on ammunition magazines, under dozens of new proposed regulations that would cement the state's status of having the strictest gun-control laws in the United States.

The magnitude of restrictions introduced by Democrats is greater than gun-rights advocates say they have ever seen at one time and puts the debate in California in the forefront, even as Congress considers a number of gun laws. The drive for tougher regulations in California also highlights the relative weakness of the gun lobby and gun manufacturers in the state.

Restrictions would include a ban on possession of all high-capacity magazines. Such magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition and that were purchased before the state banned them in 2000 are currently legal. Also, lawmakers proposed a ban on the sale of any long gun with a detachable magazine, classifying such guns as assault weapons.

'Exploiting the fine print'

State lawmakers announced those proposals at a news conference Thursday, along with plans to impose stricter certification requirements for handgun ownership and a requirement that all guns in the state be registered, not just handguns as is required now. Other recent proposals include a tax on ammunition and requiring that gun owners acquire liability insurance.

The gun industry "is very adept at exploiting the fine print and finding ways to get around the letter of the law," said state Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg, D-Sacramento...

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"Nothing has gone to unify the pro-gun community, the pro-Second Amendment community more than the attacks that we are facing," he said, adding that they were the most "in the history of California and maybe the history of the United States."...

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Unfortunately, they left out the important clause...

WHEREAS, the strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

[Vendome]

Link?

I don’t want to spend money on stuff I wanted to buy later....

[Vendome]

I will.....abolutely be gone six months after they pull their draconian Shiite(crap...whatever)....

I’LL be in NV....

FK CA....if they pull this Satanic, Devil Worship, Kommunistah Crap, by God, I’ll leave this beautiful state and consider it a vacation spot like France.

Somethin to visit...occasssionally or however undocemented migrants speel it....

[Vendome]

If new atavistic laws are enacted in CA and those counties will protect the 2A, I’d consider moving there so I could be near my Pacific Ocean.

I don’t want to leave the San Fransicko Bay Area but, I will, if my inalienable right is infringed upon.

[Vendome]

The thing about Enfield is it allows the wasting of tons of agitants from 50 yrds out for the avg rifler.

Fer meself, I want a Garand old style or a modern Springfield M1A.

Don’t care what Kalibeer.

I’ll take my time....

[Vendome]

Barry is a poosy and a sympton.

He’s herpes on America....

[Vendome]

The “Pro 1st Amendment” community is confused about who has the power.

They believe, in direct contravention to the Constitution, is granted by the government.

Effing idiots.

A government subsumed and sobserviant to the people ensures the will of the people, a free.people, is observed and represented.

Spelling is double entendre, for my Lamo friends watching... U suck ...

[Cololeo]

If they wish to ignore the Constitution, they are also ignoring the document that created them, making the entire government illegal and invalid. Maybe not a bad idea, considering...

[mrsmel]

Indeed, that’s a problem. Quite a few people support the Second Amendment, who are otherwise leftists. They can’t seem to understand the connection between the erosion of people’s rights in the big picture, and the undermining of the Second Amendment. So they’ll move to a red state for their gun rights, and then begin the process of undermining people’s rights and liberties in other aspects, then get all surprised when the enforcer of the rest-the 2A-is put on the chopping block.

[mrsmel]

No, they’ll move to a red state where the 2A is duly respected, then start with their “conservation” mess, the EPA doing its land grabs, wealth redistribution, etc, and then never understand why the people they elected to carry out these agendas would also want to take their guns away.

[mrsmel]

They certainly say that since Roe vs Wade is a done deal, the right needs to just “drop it, it’s the law of the land now”. They always want us to give up opposing legislation with which we disagree, but they never stop chipping, chipping away at the 2A, which has been around a lot longer than their baby murder law.

[rjamesca]

I believe that law was that all sales of long guns was to be reported to the state DOJ. This new proposal requires all gun to be “registered’ regardless of when they were purchased or if you move to California with guns from another state.

Essentially if you don't go down & tell them about every gun you own, you will be a criminal.

[j. earl carter]

Also, lawmakers proposed a ban on the sale of any long gun with a detachable magazine, classifying such guns as assault weapons.

Ruger 10/22 qualifies.

Looks to me like this is their roadmap. You outlaw firearms by first outlawing assault weapons and then redefining every firearm as an assault weapon.

[NTHockey]

Shot both. I’ll stake my life on the M-1.

[ggrrrrr23456]

Meanwhile, the CA economy burns and out of control spending continues. Someone needs to stand up and call these people out. Stop the focus on the destruction of our rights, and do the job OUR MONEY pays you to do - stop managing the state like a bunch of two year olds!

[eyeamok]

A citizens initiative to Amend the Constitution of California:

All Laws Restricting, Limiting, or Infringing on ANY Inalienable Right Enumerated in the United States Constitution, Shall Only APPLY to Government.

[Texas Fossil]

The Bill of Rights are rights that men are given by God, not by man or the Central Government.

The founders understood this clearly and wrote extensively about it. It is the current crop of lawyers who think that is obsolete and archaic. They are Traitors. They often do not believe in God. Now, there is an eternal price they pay for that.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security

[KeyLargo]

Looks like the feds are getting getting ready and doing practice shooting teenage citizens with all of the thousands of rounds of ammo ordered by the feds.

FDA guards shoot 15-year-old boy outside lab in Wash.

Published February 08, 2013

| Associated Press

SEATTLE – Security guards outside a Food and Drug Administration lab in suburban Bothell shot and wounded a teen Friday after the boy struck one guard with a car, Snohomish County authorities said.

The 15-year-old boy was treated at a hospital for a gunshot wound to the foot, county sheriff’s spokeswoman Shari Ireton said. The teen was also involved in a non-injury hit-and-run accident after he fled from the lab’s parking lot, she said.

The boy was booked into juvenile detention in Everett for investigation of second-degree assault.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/02/08/fda-guards-shoot-15-year-old-boy-outside-lab-in-wash/print#ixzz2KPWOUnvc

[Syncro]

And I thought Albany, NY went nuts!

Speaking of Albany:

• Will Governor Cuomo Hear from the Concerned "Vocal Minority?" (Pro gun rally Albany NY)

  Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:36:07 AM · by Leo Carpathian · 6 replies

  Capital District Political Action Network ^ | February 8, 2013 | Garry Perry

  Will Governor Cuomo Hear from the Concerned "Vocal Minority?" Albany, NY- Thousands of concerned New Yorkers from around the state will gather on the West side of the NYS Capitol in Albany on Tuesday, February 12th from 11-2 to voice their concerns over the SAFE Act and support the Second Amendment. This event is being sponsored by many pro-Second Amendment Groups, including turn Albany Upside Down, the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association (NYSRPA), and S.C.O.P.E. Many pro-Second Amendment supporters were offended to hear their concerns marginalized by Governor Cuomo as "a very vocal minority." Organizers are encouraging Governor...

[neverdem]

Thanks for the link.