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To: fieldmarshaldj
The Senators were either puppets or puppetmasters of individual legislatures.

So some Senators as puppet masters lorded over State Legislatures? Fascinating.

They had become so far removed from the people . . .

Correct. They were designed to be removed from the people. It served our republic well.

that it was what prompted a nationwide reform movement that would force some level of accountability.

Accountability? To whom? The people? That is for the House. Democratic tyranny, which describes our consolidated government quite well, is still tyranny.

State appointed Rinos or even rat Senators would think twice about screwing state budgets with Utopian social justice dreams such as Medicaid and Obamacare. When my dirtbag Senator Bill Nelson (rat-fl) voted for Obamacare, he knew he had two years for people to forget and he could deflect any criticism with his demagogic lectures on evil pubbies that would take away their freebies.

The history of our republic reflects the wisdom of state appointed senators and the idiocy of popularly elected senators.

22 posted on 02/08/2013 5:00:00 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie
"So some Senators as puppet masters lorded over State Legislatures? Fascinating."

Exactly. And it was becoming so brazen by the turn of the 20th century that it spurred on the movement for popular elections. It was the right thing to do.

"Correct. They were designed to be removed from the people. It served our republic well."

Until such time as they became self-serving, of which became an epidemic by the middle part of the 19th century.

"Accountability? To whom? The people? That is for the House. Democratic tyranny, which describes our consolidated government quite well, is still tyranny."

If you consider the current method tyranny, I consider your notion to be the same. You're not returning to the Founding Fathers, you're simply eliminating accountability and entrusting it to government workers. These are the last people that deserve to have their powers enhanced. They should be scared of us, but I am scared of them.

"State appointed Rinos or even rat Senators would think twice about screwing state budgets with Utopian social justice dreams such as Medicaid and Obamacare."

That you sincerely believe that is what makes your notion so misguided. It's not going to happen.

"The history of our republic reflects the wisdom of state appointed senators and the idiocy of popularly elected senators."

The history of our republic reflects that legislatively-elected Senators failed to live up to the Founders' notions, instead leading to bossism and corruption, and it was why the 17th was precipitated.

29 posted on 02/08/2013 5:31:24 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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