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Nuclear war over Rove's claims to work for Reagan; Gipper biographer says no
Washington Examiner ^ | 2-8-2013 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 02/08/2013 1:09:21 PM PST by smoothsailing

February 8, 2013

Nuclear war over Rove's claims to work for Reagan; Gipper biographer says no

Paul Bedard

The war of words between conservatives and former Bush advisor Karl Rove has gone nuclear, this time over Rove's claim that he worked for Ronald Reagan's 1980 campaign and on a Reagan advisory board.

The bottom line: While Rove told The O'Reilly Factor Thursday that he worked for the Gipper, Reagan's acclaimed biographer Craig Shirley says there's no evidence to back Rove up.

Worse: In an email Shirley is sending to conservative leaders, he reveals that Rove backed former President Ford in 1976 and in 1980 worked for former Texas governor Clements who didn't back Reagan until after he was nominated.

Shirley penned the book about Reagan's 1980 presidential campaign, Rendezvous with Destiny, and today said he confirmed his research about Rove with several former Reagan campaign aides...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bsrove; craigshirley; gope; karlrove; nevertrustrove; rinopurge; rove; rovetheliar; tokyorove; waronsarah
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1 posted on 02/08/2013 1:09:29 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

The shine is coming off the ‘Turd Blossom’.


2 posted on 02/08/2013 1:12:20 PM PST by shove_it (Long ago Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about 0banana's USA.)
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To: smoothsailing

Maybe next we’ll hear how Rove has Cherokee blood like a certain Massachusetts Senator...


3 posted on 02/08/2013 1:12:43 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: smoothsailing
In an email Shirley is sending to conservative leaders, he reveals that Rove backed former President Ford in 1976 and in 1980

This is as surprising as my Post Office mail showing up late at work.

4 posted on 02/08/2013 1:13:26 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: smoothsailing

Lard Butt Rove and Fat Boy Chris Christie could join forces and help revive McDonald’s sagging Big Mac sales.


5 posted on 02/08/2013 1:15:47 PM PST by travlnmn41
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To: smoothsailing
Hey! Wasn't that Rove falling off the horse behind Reagan there in one of his Hollywood appearances?


6 posted on 02/08/2013 1:17:05 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: smoothsailing; All

The RINO-Way has failed to deliver.

To survive, the GOP must close the Big Tent and boot the RINOs out, ASAP!

It is sunset time for the RINOs, and as RINOs like Rove have shown, they will still snort and bellow long after sunset.

Just as Big Government is not part of the solution, but IS the problem, so too are the goals of the RINOs for those of us who want Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

The present sorry state of RINO Leaders such as the Esteemed Sobber of The House John “Doormat” Boehner is encapsulated in the Congressional RINO Mantra: “ We have to find a Bipartisan Compromise that will pass both Houses, and that Obama will sign.”

This Congressional RINO Mantra is directly taken from The Buckley Rule which states: “Support the most Conservative Candidate that can win.”

IOW, the assumption of what is good or bad is not a factor for the Country or the GOP. The assumption is that one can discern what will be accepted by others is something that can be known before it is tried.

Thus, Obama or Reid can immobilize the RINO dominated US House of Representatives by just saying “NO” at a press conference to any idea that a RINO might propose.

The result is that only 3 people are needed to manage the US Federal Government: Senate, House and White House Leaders. Currently that is Reid, Boehner and Jarrett, respectively.

Hence, the RINOs have insured that the US Federal Government will not be good for America.

The RINOs have made it very easy for the Democrats to grind America to a halt.

By rejecting the RINOs’ Buckley Rule, the GOP will open the Party to Candidates that are good for the Party.

By rejecting the Congressional RINO Mantra, the US Congress will be open to political action that will override the current 3 leader ‘stall, delay and deny’ political nightmare.

It is pointless to blame the Communists and Socialists in the US Federal Government, because they are just doing what Communists and Socialists do best: regulate, Control and DESTROY!

Between now and the National Election in 2014, the only obstacle that needs to be overcome is the RINO control of the Republican Party.

GAME ON RINO Karl “Turd Blossom” Rove, GAME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Proudly fly your Gadsden flag, and attend TO TAKE OVER your local RINO Doormat Party Meetings!

_____________

Ponder this:

IMHO , the worst “Goal” assumption is contained in the “Buckley Rule:” Support the most Conservative Candidate WHO CAN WIN.

The Gop-Elite IN the Party chose Dole, McCain and Romney. All lost, and all were not clear about what it was that they were trying to CONSERVE.

If one is going to play Basketball, then there had better be a lot of air in the ball, AND NO LIBERAL PATCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The enlarged letters are for effect: People IN the Party are usually wrong about how people OUTSIDE the Party will vote.

Dole, McCain and Romney were supported by the powers that be in the GOP because they COULD win! You bet! When pigs fly!

_______

The second point is the “Me Too” mentality of the GOP Elites who want to compete for the Democrats pool of Big Government voters.

Hence, the GOP has moved so far to the left, that the bulk of the GOP is far to the left of JFK Democrats of 50 + years ago.

Without clear distinctions, the GOP will continue to be the fat kid “Big Tent” wanna-be Democrat that nobody will play with in the Schoolyard playground called The US Federal Government.
__________________

The last point is the “Inertia of Stupidity.”

Ignorance is when one has not learned something.

Stupidity is when one is mentally unable to learn something.

The GOP Elite try to lose big every 4 years - - - maybe they have learned that losing is a lot easier than winning?

If so, then WE are stupid for not learning that the Sun has already set on the RINO GOP Elite, the Buckley Rule and the RINO Congressional Mantra.

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Graewoulf to jimbo123; All
The RINO-Way has failed to deliver.

It is sunset time for the RINOs, and as RINOs like Rove have shown, they will still snort and bellow long after sunset.

Just as Big Government is not part of the solution, but IS the problem, so too are the goals of the RINOs for those of us who want Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

The present sorry state of RINO Leaders such as the Esteemed Sobber of The House John “Doormat” Boehner is encapsulated in the Congressional RINO Mantra: “ We have to find a Bipartisan Compromise that will pass both Houses, and that Obama will sign.”

This Congressional RINO Mantra is directly taken from The Buckley Rule which states: “Support the most Conservative Candidate that can win.”

IOW, the assumption of what is good or bad is not a factor for the Country or the GOP. The assumption is that one can discern what will be accepted by others is something that can be known before it is tried.

Thus, Obama or Reid can immobilize the RINO dominated US House of Representatives by just saying “NO” at a press conference to any idea that a RINO might propose.

The result is that only 3 people are needed to manage the US Federal Government: Senate, House and White House Leaders. Currently that is Reid, Boehner and Jarrett, respectively.

Hence, the RINOs have insured that the US Federal Government will not be good for America.

The RINOs have made it very easy for the Democrats to grind America to a halt.

By rejecting the RINOs’ Buckley Rule, the GOP will open the Party to Candidates that are good for the Party.

By rejecting the Congressional RINO Mantra, the US Congress will be open to political action that will override the current 3 leader ‘stall, delay and deny’ political nightmare.

It is pointless to blame the Communists and Socialists in the US Federal Government, because they are just doing what Communists and Socialists do best: regulate, Control and DESTROY!

Between now and the National Election in 2014, the only obstacle that needs to be overcome is the RINO control of the Republican Party.

GAME ON RINO Karl “Turd Blossom” Rove, GAME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Proudly fly your Gadsden flag, and attend TO TAKE OVER your local RINO Doormat Party Meetings!

_____________

Ponder this:

IMHO , the worst “Goal” assumption is contained in the “Buckley Rule:” Support the most Conservative Candidate WHO CAN WIN.

The Gop-Elite IN the Party chose Dole, McCain and Romney. All lost, and all were not clear about what it was that they were trying to CONSERVE.

If one is going to play Basketball, then there had better be a lot of air in the ball, AND NO LIBERAL PATCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The enlarged letters are for effect: People IN the Party are usually wrong about how people OUTSIDE the Party will vote.

Dole, McCain and Romney were supported by the powers that be in the GOP because they COULD win! You bet! When pigs fly!

_______

The second point is the “Me Too” mentality of the GOP Elites who want to compete for the Democrats pool of Big Government voters.

Hence, the GOP has moved so far to the left, that the bulk of the GOP is far to the left of JFK Democrats of 50 + years ago.

Without clear distinctions, the GOP will continue to be the fat kid “Big Tent” wanna-be Democrat that nobody will play with in the Schoolyard playground called The US Federal Government.
__________________

The last point is the “Inertia of Stupidity.”

Ignorance is when one has not learned something.

Stupidity is when one is mentally unable to learn something.

The GOP Elite try to lose big every 4 years - - - maybe they have learned that losing is a lot easier than winning?

If so, then WE are stupid for not learning that the Sun has already set on the RINO GOP Elite, the Buckley Rule and the RINO Congressional Mantra.


7 posted on 02/08/2013 1:19:05 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: travlnmn41

Hey why insult McDonald’s by using the names of Christie and Rove in the same sentence.


8 posted on 02/08/2013 1:22:24 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: shove_it

Rove will be working for the Charlie Crist campain pretty soon. LOL


9 posted on 02/08/2013 1:22:26 PM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: smoothsailing
he was with the George H. W. Bush campaign until he was fired for leaking to the media.

Seems that the four-flushing Rove is quite the liar.

Love your graphic, he is a magnificently worthless bastard.

11 posted on 02/08/2013 1:25:25 PM PST by jazusamo ("Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." -- Adam Smith)
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To: shove_it

As the saying goes: Failure is an orphan. Success has a million Mothers. I guess Karl Rove is one of those Mothers.


12 posted on 02/08/2013 1:26:20 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: smoothsailing
"What difference does it make at this time"? to quote one of our enemies.
It is immaterial whether Rove supported Reagan. It is waste of time to debate that.

I never liked both Bush'es and I never liked Karl Rove. But I am astute enough to recognize
Rove is not the real enemy. The real enemies are Obama-Reid-Pelosi-Clintons.

I spend all my resources opposing the real enemies.

13 posted on 02/08/2013 1:28:55 PM PST by entropy12 (The republic is doomed when people figure out they can get free stuff by voting democrats)
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To: smoothsailing

Maybe Rove is sick in his head. Why would he make up a b.s. story that could be easily refuted? Maybe somebody should do some opposition research on him and find the skeletons in his closet. Do whatever it takes to make him shut up and disappear.


14 posted on 02/08/2013 1:31:11 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: smoothsailing
BUT.

Interesting that Rove felt obliged to mention (or lie, we'll see if this is true or not) this tidbit about working on Reagan campaign, no?

15 posted on 02/08/2013 1:36:54 PM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: COBOL2Java

"I'm sorry Karl, but I've already got a campaign manager".

16 posted on 02/08/2013 1:39:28 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

How long must we endure this skid mark on the shorts of the conservative movement?


17 posted on 02/08/2013 1:40:04 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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To: Graewoulf

The GOP is dead Jim... dead.

For Conservatives that is.

They function now as the Judenrat for the MarxoFascists, Tokyo Rove doing the job Obama can’t do in forcing the betrayal of Conservative Principles in order for Conservatives to beg for political life before being herded into box cars to irrelevant camps.


18 posted on 02/08/2013 1:40:10 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: entropy12
Rove is not the real enemy. The real enemies are Obama-Reid-Pelosi-Clintons.

Folks like Rove make it possible for more Dems to win by splitting the base and forcing crap RINO candidates down our throats. So Rove is a de facto ally of the Dem cabal. He sure as heck is no ally to conservatism.

19 posted on 02/08/2013 1:40:10 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: smoothsailing

I worked with Craig Shirley when he was at the Young Americans for Freedom office on Wilshire Blvd. in Los Angeles in the mid-1070’s—and I’ll vouch for his integrity.


20 posted on 02/08/2013 1:44:24 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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