Posted on 02/06/2013 9:43:36 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
The media, the teachers unions and the thugs of Leon, Broward, Dade and Monroe counties will all be licking Charlie's backside...which means Rick will have a fight on his hands.
We can win this, though!
Florida big news ping!
Somebody ask Senator Cornyn if he’ll back Crist again!
OMG. ..Crist? Incredible; the only thing that has more ‘staying power’ than these Libs; are cockroaches. Actually; if one thinks about it; the Libs win - as we have ‘solutions’ to the latter.
I can’t remember, who was it who gave us Crist in the first place? Rove and the Bushes, I think.
Same guys who gave us Arnie and Lincoln Chaffee.
I don't want Scott... I'd love to see Adam Putnam as governor.
Ask Alan West what it takes to win in Florida.
Unless you can clean up the fraud mill that runs the Elections in Florida, we have no chance of beating back the Progressive Commie scum.
You forgot Alachua County, although Christ may not be far left enough.
IIRC, he was giftwrapped by Jeb Bush as his supposedly worthy replacement.
No, I remember that election. Jeb Bush, his predecessor, was noticeably mum during that campaign.
We can win if Scott steps aside for a Republican who’s approval rating is not in the toilet. It looks if Scott is nominee or if he so brutalizes whoever beats him in the primary that they can’t win either he’ll hand the office to the democrats, possibly newly democrat Charlie Crist if he can win the rat primary.
He should put his own ambition aside and do what is right for the party. I’m sure you will flame me now since you clearly like him but the numbers paint a dismal picture for his chances at reelection and I doubt 100 mil in tv ads will change that.
I know in earlier thread you referenced the mistake of nominating "whatever amateur screams the loudest that they are King or Queen of the Tea party". That really fits Rick Scott to a tee. This guy literally came out of nowhere and had a paper thin resume for the job when he was handed the GOP nomination for Governor by the tea party in 2010. Fortunately for him, he was running in a big GOP year against a week Dem, so he managed to eek to victory by 1% whereas other "tea party" amateurs got clobbered.
>> He should put his own ambition aside and do what is right for the party. I’m sure you will flame me now since you clearly like him but the numbers paint a dismal picture for his chances at reelection and I doubt 100 mil in tv ads will change that. <<
Heh. I said the same thing about Senator Sununu when he was tied to the hip of Bush and consistently trailing ex-RAT Governor Shaheen in 2006, and got flamed for it. The hilarious thing is Sununu HIMSELF made the same argument six years earlier when Bob Smith was losing to Shaheen, but wouldn't take his own advice when he was in that situation. It's like Gingrirch/Oberweis "we must ALL vote for the highest polling conservative so we don't split the conservative vote" rule... the candidate's supporters only preach it when it benefits their guy in the primary. ;-)
Scott has too much invested at this point to step aside (and for whom would he do so ? Jeb Bush ?). The big question is whether Democrat pols in FL are just going to sit by quietly and allow Crist to be handed the nomination. The guy is a world class opportunist.
As for the Sununu situation in NH, the question would’ve been then as it is now: who else would’ve run ? Drafted an unknown person who was sure to lose ? Of the first-tier candidates in NH, there were next to none. Look what happened to Ovide Lamontagne, who was all but expected to waltz into the Governor’s office last November, and he was blitzed in a painful replay of his race against Shaheen in 1996.
Indeed, had Sununu simply dropped out after a single term and had someone else taken his place, he’d have been rightfully crucified for pulling a Paul Trible or Dan Coats. It’s doubtful even the most well-regarded Republican could’ve won in 2008 against Shaheen. It appears now they may try to have Sununu, Jr. run yet again in ‘14. As with before, if only because we have no farm team.
I agree that the NH GOP had no one who would run as strongly as Sununu in the 2008 Senate race, but the same cannot be said for the FL GOP regarding the FL GOP. Off the top of my head, there’s Lt. Gov. Jennifer Carroll, Commissioner of Agriculture (and former Congressman) Adam Putman, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Chief Financial Officer (and former Senate Presdient) Jeff Atwater, and former Congressman Lincoln Díaz-Balart.
Governor Scott barely won with the wind at his back in 2010, and he’s done nothing but taken lumps since then. I think that before he spends $100 million on his reelection he should ponder whether it will make a difference, and whether it would be wiser to step aside and allow a conservative Republican with a better chance of winning run for governor.
Gosh, I had a couple of stupid mistakes in that post (and I can’t even blame my iPhone this time):
“regarding the FL GOP” = “regarding the 2014 gubernatorial race”
“Senate Presdient” = “Senate President”
He has cut spending, the state’s credit rating has been upgraded, and jobs have been created—he is on pace to fulfill his campaign pledge.
I say instead of wringing our hands about the obstacles we stand behind his SOLID record.
The question is, will Scott continue to say no to Obamacare?
Perdogg, Since seeing that post about the EXCHANGES, I don’t have the dread you express.
Seems to me these governors are taking advantage of a big legal loophole the assclown put in his piece of crap law....
Though overall, I disagree with federal funding for this crap, the rejection of “exchanges” seems to really cut the legs out from under Obamacare....
Happens to me all the time. And I run this stuff through the built-in FR spell checker twice, and still end up with a ton of typos and grammar mistakes (usually missing words) that I don’t notice until AFTER I’ve posted my comments. Ugh! :-)
>> I agree that the NH GOP had no one who would run as strongly as Sununu in the 2008 Senate race <<
Yeah, yeah, yeah... a mere two years after the "NH GOP has no farm team so we GOTTA run well known politicians kids to be competitive in that state", Kelly Ayotte was elected the U.S. Senate. Hell, Wisconsin elected an unknown businessman from the private sector in 2010, and tried to catch lighting in the bottle a second time in 2012 with Eric Hovde (that wasn't going to happen). The RATs are much more effective than us at electing previously unknown state legislators and private sector people to the U.S. Senate. Republicans rarely try, we just recycle big name establishment pols. The exception is tea party stars, but as Impy says, a lot of them lack saavy and discipline on the campaign trail so they crash and burn. There has to be a middle ground between establishment entrenched pols and clueless amateurs.
I have to admit though, looking back in hindsight, it was a terrible year for Republicans in 2008 with Obama on top of the ticket, so we would have probably lost that seat anyway. However, that was the peak of the Dems milking "it's BUSH'S fault!!" and beating the GOP over the head with Bush, so I firmly believe a non Bushbot candidate that the Dems couldn't use as a scapegoat ("he voted to give a blank check to BUSH'S illegal war!!" blah blah blah) would have done better than Sununu did. My guess is a decent likeable non-Sunun Republican might have gotten 47-48%, as opposed to Sununu's 45%, but a loss is still a loss.
>> regarding the FL GOP. Off the top of my head, there’s Lt. Gov. Jennifer Carroll, Commissioner of Agriculture (and former Congressman) Adam Putman, Attorney General Pam Bondi, Chief Financial Officer (and former Senate Presdient) Jeff Atwater, and former Congressman Lincoln Díaz-Balart. <<
Good point, we have a number of A-list candidates in Florida. I'd oppose a run by the borderline RINOish Lincoln Díaz-Balart, Jennifer Carroll would be ideal but I'm worried the Dems could also tie her to the unpopular Scott, and Putman seems to have a ton of tea party fans but has been underwhelming so far (yeah, yeah, yeah, "he ran in a liberal district and he was the only Republican we could have run there"... still doesn't explain him going nowhere when he jumped into the Senate race). But in any case, I think they'd all be stronger than Scott.
>> Scott has done a very good job. <<
Then why are his approval ratings in the toilet and he's losing by 14 points to the highly unpopular flip-flopping opportunist Charlie Crist? (and remember, this is right after Crist got killed in a Senate race). You can't use the "He pissed off liberal constituencies" excuse since Florida is a swing state and leans to the right. Clearly he has aligned a large chuck of the FL electorate. I disagree with Impy and AuH2ORepublican that his re-election prospects are doomed... November 2014 is a long way away and this guy can afford to spend whatever he needs to get his message out, but right now his re-election prospects are dim. If the election was held tomorrow, he'd get killed. I hope he improves in the next few months, otherwise I'd have to agree with them that he needs to put aside his ego and gracefully bow out so other Republicans have a shot.
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