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1 posted on 02/04/2013 1:00:22 PM PST by neverdem
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2 posted on 02/04/2013 1:09:39 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
He noted gun show sales are typically one-on-one sales, and he stressed that federally licensed gun dealers at the shows already must use NCIS to check backgrounds

For the gun shows I've attended the last 20 years, I'd see on average maybe two or three people at the show walking around with a gun for sale sign on their back. Usually it was some sort of safe-queen high price collector military rifle (non-auto). You can sell a gun on Craigslist quicker than waiting for a gunshow.

3 posted on 02/04/2013 1:14:01 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: neverdem
We need a bill ready to push into law OUTLAWING all private security people from carrying guns. That means liberal elites in fancy highrises won't have paid armed security. Either will Hollywood's 'stars' as they preach about taking away our guns.

If we're disarmed, so are they... It can be called the 'If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander' bill of gun control.

4 posted on 02/04/2013 1:19:20 PM PST by GOPJ ( Revelation can be more perilous than Revolution. Vladimir Nabokov)
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Sen. Charles E. Grassley, R-Iowa, said vulnerable Senate Democratic incumbents could be the key to preventing an assault weapons ban from passing this year.

Gee, you mean the NRA's single-issue strategy actually works?

But I thought a common theory here suggested that the NRA only endorse Republicans?

5 posted on 02/04/2013 1:22:34 PM PST by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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the MSM is settling in on the Universal (permanent record) backgroun check as a compromise.

staw man sales are already illegal.
sales as shows require a background check.

this is about abolishing the 90 day destroy records rule.


6 posted on 02/04/2013 1:26:08 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: neverdem

This does not make me feel much better, what with how the Republicans have folded on everything else recently.


7 posted on 02/04/2013 1:35:43 PM PST by jim_trent
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"Grassley said he supports updating the National Instant Criminal Background Check System with mental health information. The NCIS is currently incomplete where mental health records are concerned."

Looks like Republicans may pass a bill like that. A large portion of the adult population has been diagnosed as being mentally ill at some time in their lives. They, along with other non-felon groups that have already been barred from possessing firearms or ammunition would then give large numbers (~ 25%?) in support of outlawing firearms for everyone else. Things will get very interesting after a bill like that passes.


9 posted on 02/04/2013 1:57:44 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: neverdem

As long as the Republicans lack any conviction or backbone, any dangerous legislation has a good chance of passing.


10 posted on 02/04/2013 1:58:23 PM PST by lurk
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Well, look what happened when they criminalizd alcohol. Honest citizens went out and bought lots of firearms and then machine guns, so they criminalzed machine guns, and these formerly honest citizens, now armed criminals, became wealthy armed criminals, protecting their turf. Did they go back to normal jobs? No, because now they had power.

Now, the honest citizens being turned into criminals aren’t going to be dealing in a secondary product; they’re going to be dealing in a primary product. It won’t be moonshining and bootlegging, it will be arms dealing, magazine and arms manufacturing, and ammunition manufacturing and sales. And a large amount of it will be an underground black market, non-taxed economy.

Obama and the democrats are complete idiots. They now say they need more taxes and can’t see where they can cut spending? They could raise about a billion dollars easily with all the excess ammo they’ve bought just in the last few months.


13 posted on 02/04/2013 2:04:16 PM PST by Real Cynic No More
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Well, look what happened when they criminalizd alcohol. Honest citizens went out and bought lots of firearms and then machine guns, so they criminalzed machine guns, and these formerly honest citizens, now armed criminals, became wealthy armed criminals, protecting their turf. Did they go back to normal jobs? No, because now they had power.

Now, the honest citizens being turned into criminals aren’t going to be dealing in a secondary product; they’re going to be dealing in a primary product. It won’t be moonshining and bootlegging, it will be arms dealing, magazine and arms manufacturing, and ammunition manufacturing and sales. And a large amount of it will be an underground black market, non-taxed economy.

Obama and the democrats are complete idiots. They now say they need more taxes and can’t see where they can cut spending? They could raise about a billion dollars easily with all the excess ammo they’ve bought just in the last few months.


14 posted on 02/04/2013 2:04:52 PM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: neverdem

BTW, those who have been adjudicate/committed are already reported to the NCIC by the institutions and denied firearms purchases.


15 posted on 02/04/2013 2:05:13 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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