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1 posted on 02/02/2013 11:15:59 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

When your model tells you the unbelievable, throw out your model. The faster the supercomputer used for models the faster and BIGGER the mistakes. Cr@p in equals cr@p out. I seem to remember a small body of water less than 100 miles west called the Pacific Ocean.


2 posted on 02/02/2013 11:26:22 PM PST by Cyman
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Steve Van Doorn; Syncro; ProtectOurFreedom; Citizen James; abigail2; ...

Who’s the head Ubangi that get to declare whether something is sustainable or not? Is it the same idiot that declared carbon dioxide to be a pollutant?


3 posted on 02/02/2013 11:27:39 PM PST by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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I hate to break the news to these clowns, but they may want to take a drive through the Central Valley some day. Roughly half, if not more, of their water supply has been cut off, thanks to critters like Snail Darters, Gnat Catchers, bit turtles, etc.

Maybe in the past the most productive agricultural land in the world had some small effect on climate, but not anymore - it’s practically desert now.


4 posted on 02/02/2013 11:36:01 PM PST by BobL
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To: neverdem

Well, I’m sure these idiots are more than willing to supply a solution. Let me guess. Ban farming where it requires irrigation! Who needs farmers anyway? We can just buy our vegetables at the supermarket.


6 posted on 02/02/2013 11:46:27 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: neverdem

Here in The Central Valley the irrigation water comes from local rivers which are supplied from winter mountain run-off.

If there is low snowfall in the Sierras, our area farmers do not receive the water needed for crops and the crop yield is deminished. Along that line of thinking the snail darters must receive the water to survive and damn the farmers.

This year, snow and rainfall have produced an abondance of water which will flow through the valley rivers and thus to the local farmers.

But, no matter how much water flows, the useless snail darters will get their water and farmers will lose in the process.


7 posted on 02/03/2013 12:31:04 AM PST by Diver Dave (Because He Lives, I Can Face Tomorrow)
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To: neverdem

environment/climate ping


8 posted on 02/03/2013 12:33:16 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: neverdem

What Difference Does That Make?

9 posted on 02/03/2013 12:39:48 AM PST by itsahoot (MSM and Fox free since Nov 1st. If it doesnÂ’t happen here then it didn't happen.)
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To: neverdem

Not a big deal really.
All the pools in the L.A. area have caused the humidity level to raise there.


10 posted on 02/03/2013 2:38:50 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: neverdem

I’ve been talking about how moisture is carried across the land for five or six years now. I don’t know about the numbers, but the effects are real.


13 posted on 02/03/2013 7:45:35 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: neverdem

Some years ago, a “genius”-type scientist and inventor wondered why severe deserts can go right to the beach of an ocean, yet have almost no precipitation.

He discovered that ocean water has a 2-3mm thick layer on top of it that is much warmer than the rest of the water, and it somehow blocks evaporation from the surface.

But if you sprinkle some water mist and droplets on this upper layer, it temporarily breaks it up, and the amount of evaporation jumps.

So he had the idea of putting 20-30 vertical wind turbines on floating rafts several miles off a desert coast. As the wind turned the turbines, they would pump water up many feet, to spray a heavy mist into the air, which would then descend over a wide area to break up the 2-3mm warm water layer.

Thus much more evaporation would come from the ocean, and it would significantly increase precipitation inland.


17 posted on 02/03/2013 8:30:12 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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But not all of the enhanced rainfall comes from California moisture, the team notes. As water vapor in the air condenses, it releases prodigious amounts of heat. When that hot air rises, it creates low pressure at ground level in the region surrounding the storms and draws in moist air from surrounding regions, including the Gulf of California and the Gulf of Mexico. "The added moisture really fires up the storm cycle" in the Southwest, Famiglietti says.

What is known as a "thermal low" occurs every summer in the area of Yuma, Arizona. Though this area also is irrigated (from the Colorado River), it is also one of the naturally hottest areas of the country. In my experience having lived in AZ & NM all but a few years of my life, it provides little moisture compared to the large negative impact of the aforementioned high pressure zone that is parked over the area from May through mid-July. And any moisture effects of the low pressure from irrigation evapotranspiration seem only to cause a rise in humidity in the local area. The same can be seen in Phoenix where temperatures due to the urban heat effect (black pavement from streets and parking lots, and dark shingles on homes and buildings) combine with evapotranspiration from lawn and vegetation watering to produce a summer misery index that keeps people indoors. It certainly doesn't seem to impact regional weather as the area continues to remain in a lengthy drought.

32 posted on 02/07/2013 11:27:56 AM PST by CedarDave (Matt Damon is to natural gas fracking as Jane Fonda is to nuclear power generation.)
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