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Dozens of students withdraw in Harvard cheating scandal
Reuters ^ | Feb 1, 2013 | Svea Herbst-Bayliss

Posted on 02/02/2013 8:23:23 AM PST by daniel1212

As many as 60 students have been forced to withdraw from Harvard University after cheating on a final exam last year in what has become the largest academic scandal to hit the Ivy League school in recent memory.

Michael Smith, Harvard's Dean of the Faculty of Arts and Sciences, sent an email on Friday saying that more than half of the students who faced the school's Administrative Board have been suspended for a time.

Roughly 125 undergraduates were involved in the scandal, which came to light at the end of the spring semester after a professor noticed similarities on a take-home exam

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: cheating; education; harvard; liberal
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To: billorites

Some.. I suspect, are feeling truly desperate”.

I agree. I went to a very small, Catholic high school. The geometry teacher was a nice man.. he just wasn’t a good teacher at this subject. There were kids who did cheat on the tests. One way was to have a cheat-cheat (a piece of paper with notes) and it was taped inside the front part of the school uniform skirt. You sat down, flipped your skirt over/up and presto... notes. The girls felt safe because what male teacher (at that time) was going to ask you to flip your skirt up!

Some of the students that I currently see struggling with a subject don’t have the money (or the parents don’t) for a private tutor. The school doesn’t really assist much with tutoring. Thus, they may feel trapped.


41 posted on 02/02/2013 10:40:52 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Wordkraft; Redmen4ever
A drunken professor is truly a horror story. Funny thing is that the statistics and methods courses I took as an undergrad and in grad school probably were the best part of my college education. Skills that I use regularly.

The college president of our little school said only one thing that I remember over 35 years later. Paraphrasing him, "The value of a liberal arts education comes from being able to recognize bullshit when you read it or hear it."

He phrased it more artfully, but it made an impression on me and turned out to be true. Even courses that don't seem important, if well taught, help develop the critical thinking and evaluative skills that prove valuable later.

42 posted on 02/02/2013 10:46:27 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: daniel1212

This is normal. It is one of the schools for future politicians.


43 posted on 02/02/2013 10:50:24 AM PST by Revel
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To: daniel1212

How many of the students were named ‘Kennedy’?


44 posted on 02/02/2013 10:52:56 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: daniel1212

Gee, 60 more Edward “Teddy” Kennedys!


45 posted on 02/02/2013 10:53:08 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Have a wonderful day!)
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To: daniel1212

“Suspensions depend on the student, but traditionally last two semesters and as much as four semesters.”

Where I went to college, you were EXPELLED for cheating. So Haavaad only has you go home and work in a supermarket for a year or two, and then you go back and all is forgiven. Most likely during that time, the student will take some transferable classes at home - so the effect will be minor.

Too funny.


46 posted on 02/02/2013 11:08:53 AM PST by BobL
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To: Wordkraft
Hypocrite lecteur, mon semblable, mon frère,
Well aren't you and your classmates just Little Goodie Two Shoes!

In my day, professorial alcoholism was a given. In your case, in vino veritas. Instead of getting the poor bastard fired for telling you the truth, you young jackanapes should have gone to the dean and told him that the course was academically worthless and demanded your money back without involving the dipso Professor.

Why not start attending MADD meetings?

47 posted on 02/02/2013 11:18:41 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Absolution Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = no-fault Marxism.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I was in my 30’s going back to university for career purposes and I resented my time being wasted. The instructor had no business in the classroom. He needed to be in treatment.


48 posted on 02/02/2013 11:35:31 AM PST by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: daniel1212
...suspended for a time.

That little weasel-worded loophole leapt out at me.

Let's see now, 125 students at 50K/year each, we're talking some real money here. And how many have influential/rich parents who got them into Harvard, alumni who donate to the college?

Someone should follow this story a while, see how many cheaters get reinstated...

49 posted on 02/02/2013 11:38:15 AM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: Wordkraft
He needed to be in treatment.

He probably needed to have a few sherries with you fellows and to explain his theories more cogently. HE wasn't wasting your time, the program that required a useless course was wasting your time.

It has been known since the dawn of the University in the 13th century that alcohol facilitates learning. While you're at it, check out a copy of "The Student Prince."

50 posted on 02/02/2013 11:43:41 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Absolution Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = no-fault Marxism.)
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To: varmintman
....no point in studying DEAD ones.

Propositum invalidum, old chap. Res ipsa loquitur. One can hardly be expected to master the nuances of the various live languages unless one fully appreciates the "dead" tongues whence they sprang.

Verbum sat sapientes, etc.

51 posted on 02/02/2013 11:49:40 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Absolution Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = no-fault Marxism.)
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To: layman

But it is harder to cheat (or out cheat) in sports. Just imagine if the liberal ethos that sees all as entitled to the same rewards, regardless of merit (and at the expense of those who legitimately, lawfully earned them) was forced upon sports. Or sports without officials.

But the victim-entitlement mentality began the devil himself.


52 posted on 02/02/2013 1:08:34 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: varmintman

Note the year and the reason. While that is not warranted today, the principle is valid, and the rest are applicable.


53 posted on 02/02/2013 1:10:38 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: ZOOKER
"...suspended for a time." That little weasel-worded loophole leapt out at me....Someone should follow this story a while, see how many cheaters get reinstated...

Good eyes. Note also that the gov. completely forgives student loans after they work for the gov. or a secular non-profit for 10 years, making 120 consecutive payments, thus fostering liberals in gov. as the overwhelming majority of colleges are largely secular. seminaries.

54 posted on 02/02/2013 1:18:36 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Strategerist; BobL; raccoonradio; dagogo redux; Stosh; ZOOKER; Paladin2
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55 posted on 02/02/2013 1:19:12 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
which came to light at the end of the spring semester after a professor noticed similarities on a take-home exam

Now that's the perfect definition of *a special kind of stupid*.

56 posted on 02/02/2013 1:21:14 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
At a grocery store near MIT and Harvard, the limited item count express lane checkout chick was known to remark "Are you from Harvard and can't count or from MIT and can't read?"

(At least that's the way I heard it....)

57 posted on 02/02/2013 1:50:25 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: ZOOKER

I believe that Harvard’s endowment is large enough that they don’t need to charge tuition for any student.


58 posted on 02/02/2013 1:52:07 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Redmen4ever

Some smattering of Statistics knowledge certainly helps in understanding that CAGW is unprovable BS that is widely spread.


59 posted on 02/02/2013 1:58:07 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Wordkraft
"I was in my 30’s going back to university for career purposes and I resented my time being wasted. The instructor had no business in the classroom. He needed to be in treatment."

While I was in (various) High Schools, I noted that there were a number of instructors who were worse than useless. Progress required rewiring around them.

A few others were truly inspirational and more than made up for the drones. One should always be an active participant in one's personal edumacation.

60 posted on 02/02/2013 2:26:10 PM PST by Paladin2
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