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NBC Exclusive: Boy Scouts Close to Ending Ban on Gay Members, Leaders
NBC News ^ | Monday, January 28, 2013 | Pete Williams

Posted on 01/28/2013 10:15:05 AM PST by kristinn

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To: JCBreckenridge
Where’s the evidence that this is true? The lying media?

That's a very good question.
I don't trust NBC as far as I can throw a mouse fart.

81 posted on 01/28/2013 12:06:10 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: laweeks
Basically, that’s what they want, right?

Actually, no: They want to get into the BSA because in their mind, anything that represents moral purity must be destroyed.

And the way they are going to do that is by boffing the kids and turning everything into a scandal.

82 posted on 01/28/2013 12:10:39 PM PST by Houmatt (Generic tag line.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Good point. Once my son reaches the age of consent I can’t make him do anything. However, my recommendation today would be against joining the USMC.

When the first state secession happens, I recommend joining that state’s militia in the fight to protect that state from the fed monster.

I recommend fighting for God and freedom, wherever he and it may roam.


83 posted on 01/28/2013 12:19:43 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: silverleaf

Yes, like the Marines. I would no longer recommend any son of mine to join. The fight is for God, family and country. When country becomes evil, items 1 and 2 take precedence.


84 posted on 01/28/2013 12:23:42 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: silverleaf

I suppose your kid also will never join the NRA the AMA the ABA, becomes a teacher, a judge, a plumber, an airline pilot, engineer, goes to University, joins a college fraternity, enrolls in mensa, the National Honor society, the US military, becomes a cop or fireman, joins a church, joins 4-H, or affiliates with any other organization or profession or social organization that “allows” homosexuals as members>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I can tell you were never a Boy Scout. Has your gay Boy Scout Counsellor slept in the same tent as your kid on a wilderness hike?

Buahahahahahaha. Put words into your own mouth not mine. You can have the fudgepackers. I choose not to.


85 posted on 01/28/2013 12:24:52 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Tzar
7 Don’t buy it. This is mere psyops. ABC claimed the same malarkey less than a year ago so I called BSA headquarters. They assured me that it was just the media causing trouble.

I am not so sure. The timing is propitious. BSA's founding anniversary is FEB 8 (1910). Its by-laws established that it must submit an annual report to the BSA Honorary President (who happens to be the POTUS). Traditionally, this report is hand delivered to the White House sometime in FEB.

BHO was heavily lobbied by athesits/agnostics/homosexuals in JAN 2009 to resign his Honorary Presidency of the BSA. He hasn't, to date. BHO's State of the Union Address is scheduled much later than normal, FEB 12. It seems reasonable that his WH staff reached out to BSA National in Irving, TX, and told them if they don't back down, he will resign the Honorary Presidency.

The progressive opposition to BSA calls this maneuver the "local option", i.e., letting the individual charter institutions, i.e., the churches, decide who their adult and youth membership will be. The UCC, TEC, ELCA, PCUSA, and UMC churches will shout hallelujah.

This is going to cause problems between Cub Scout packs at Pinewood Derbies and Day Camps and Boy Scout troops at district camporees, council camporees and summer camps, national jamborees, and the 2014 World Jamboree at The Summit near Oak Hill, WV.

The fallout from this has major disastrous potential for the survival of BSA

86 posted on 01/28/2013 12:26:31 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: Tzar

They might actually be crying Uncle this time.

Obama just got another uninterrupted 4 years to steamroll them.


87 posted on 01/28/2013 12:31:04 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: T-Bird45
I'd say the LDS-sponsored units would simply drop their BSA affiliation. This would shortly be followed by an LDS-only group

I wouldn't be too sure of that.

Love One Another: A Discussion on Same-Sex Attraction

Official mormon church statement

"The experience of same-sex attraction is a complex reality for many people. The attraction itself is not a sin, but acting on it is. Even though individuals do not choose to have such attractions, they do choose how to respond to them. With love and understanding, the Church reaches out to all God’s children, including our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters."

88 posted on 01/28/2013 12:33:33 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Thanks Mitt.)
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To: kristinn

Anyone only needs to recall what happened when the Catholic Church provided gay priest access to altar boys to see what will happen the day that the Boy Scouts provide gay scout leaders access to the boys. The lawsuits that will be forth coming against the Boy Scouts when the perverts get through will financially destroy the entire organization.


89 posted on 01/28/2013 12:33:43 PM PST by Saltmeat
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To: tanknetter
I would expect the Mormon and Roman Catholic sponsored BSA councils etc to fight tooth and nail.

Well some will. But...The Mormons have recently run tv ads showing a tolerance of homosexuals. As in they don't really approve, but they're welcome to join anyway. Traditional Catholic parishes (if any actually sponsor BSA -- I doubt it) WOULD fight tooth and nail. But many everyday Catholic "new church" type parishes would have no trouble with this at all.

BTW, I just heard a Fox News Radio report on this. Said it would be up to individual councils to decide. Maybe the best decision would be to leave and form a new, conservative organization.

90 posted on 01/28/2013 12:41:35 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: Tzar

I am hoping that you’re right and that the Mormons will kill this. My church, the RC is totally useless it seems stopping or steming this stuff.


91 posted on 01/28/2013 12:56:05 PM PST by MSF BU (n)
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To: Candor7

bwaaahah ha hah ha

you can’t tell feces, even though you have an interesting obsession with them

started my own Scout troop
no fudgegacker troop leader that way!
just lots and lots of great experiences and fun

enjoy your family wilderness hikes, take your own kids and go.

Be sure they never go to college or join a church youth group or the military... they might have to sleep in the same building, nay the same room as...... a homosexual

aaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!


92 posted on 01/28/2013 1:02:20 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: MSF BU

Your RC church better never sponsor troops that have leaders who are living in what the Church says is a sinful relationship, or shame on them

otherwise no kids should belong to that troop. The parents have ultimate control over who is their kid’s troop leader. In fact it is up to the straight married parents to step up and lead their own troops.


93 posted on 01/28/2013 1:05:24 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: kristinn
For those who need it straight from the horse's mouth ...

http://www.scouting.org/membershippolicy.aspx
MEDIA STATEMENT
Boy Scouts of America
Monday, Jan. 28, 2013
Attributable to: Deron Smith, Director of Public Relations

“For more than 100 years, Scouting’s focus has been on working together to deliver the nation’s foremost youth program of character development and values-based leadership training. Scouting has always been in an ongoing dialogue with the Scouting family to determine what is in the best interest of the organization and the young people we serve.

“Currently, the BSA is discussing potentially removing the national membership restriction regarding sexual orientation. This would mean there would no longer be any national policy regarding sexual orientation, and the chartered organizations that oversee and deliver Scouting would accept membership and select leaders consistent with each organization’s mission, principles, or religious beliefs. BSA members and parents would be able to choose a local unit that best meets the needs of their families.

“The policy change under discussion would allow the religious, civic, or educational organizations that oversee and deliver Scouting to determine how to address this issue. The Boy Scouts would not, under any circumstances, dictate a position to units, members, or parents. Under this proposed policy, the BSA would not require any chartered organization to act in ways inconsistent with that organization’s mission, principles, or religious beliefs.”

94 posted on 01/28/2013 1:08:08 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: silverleaf

Part of the problem with my denomination is that there are many folks in positions of authority who really belong with the Unitarians, and they lack the intellectual honesty to acknowledge that.


95 posted on 01/28/2013 1:10:20 PM PST by MSF BU (n)
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To: MacNaughton

The ACLU would use the fact that the national organization does not ban homosexuals to force the locals to comply. With the new “civil right” status of homosexuality, it won’t be long before you either comply with the national policy or disband.


96 posted on 01/28/2013 1:14:13 PM PST by Conservative_Rob
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To: tanknetter

Some individual Catholic church groups do, what makes you think mormons with fight this based on their very recent statements and their long term history.


97 posted on 01/28/2013 1:16:51 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Tzar
Don’t buy it. This is mere psyops.

Agreed. I don't see anything that says the boy scouts are actually going to do this.

I'll believe it when I see it myself. NEVER trust the MSM. They work for the dark side.

They've been purposely "agitating" the right wing ever since Oboma was given affirmative action. They want to incite us to anger, and then use that anger as a weapon against us. (BIG - and affective - Alinski tactic.)

99 posted on 01/28/2013 1:28:10 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: tanknetter

Pushing it down to Councils is NOT a good idea at all. The BSA is a national affiliate of a worldwide movement. In the US, the BSA sets out national policies, national standards, and a national brand.

What the Councils do will ultimately reflect on the national org anyway. The press is going to see to it.


100 posted on 01/28/2013 1:28:29 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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