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China Demands U.S. Taxpayers Clean Up Its Air
Forbes ^ | 01/28/2013 | Gordon Chang

Posted on 01/28/2013 8:25:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Are the stars finally aligned for a global climate change treaty?

After years of frustration, momentum seemed to change in an instant last Monday. President Obama’s second inaugural address made it clear he was going to lead the world on the issue, his words a “clarion call to action” as one observer put it.

Obama’s first term was marked by one failure after another on the climate issue. For instance, his efforts to craft an agreement at Copenhagen in December 2009 were frustrated by developing nations, and subsequent conferences, such as the one last November and December in Doha, have not produced hoped-for progress.

At Doha, nations agreed to extend the Kyoto Protocol eight years to 2020, but few hailed the conference because the whole climate process, on balance, went into reverse. China backed out of understandings made in 2011, states failed to reach meaningful carbon-reduction targets, and Kyoto fell apart as Russia, Canada, and Japan dropped out of the pact. With the defections, Kyoto now covers less than 15% of the world’s emissions. As the Canadian Broadcasting Corp. observed, the treaty has sputtered “to a sorry end.”

The U.S. never ratified Kyoto because the Bush administration sensibly decided not to support any arrangement that did not include emission caps for developing nations like China, the world’s largest emitter of greenhouse gases. By now it’s clear that all countries will need to accept firm caps on emissions if there is to be a global climate pact. Will Beijing now drop its “knee-jerk” opposition to an enforceable emissions limit?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; chinaair; co2; co2scam; corruption; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenscam; pollution; sinofascism

1 posted on 01/28/2013 8:25:35 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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HOW BAD IS THE AIR IN CHINA? (SOMEONE TELL TOM FRIEDMAN, WHO DREAMS OF AN AMERICA BEING MORE LIKE CHINA ):

In Beijing, the level of dangerous PM2.5 particulates was more than 39 times higher than World Health Organization guidelines.

In Zhejiang province, a factory burned for three hours before neighbors realized the smoke was not smog.

Artist-turned-dissident Ai Weiwei famously posed in a gas mask. In the most polluted country on earth, the “seemingly never-ending haze and fog” was the worst ever.

ACCORDING TO THE ARTICLE:

The Chinese central government is cash-strapped these days and so does not want to commit to making big expenditures. Moreover, China’s powerful state enterprises—the polluters—have indicated they will not pay either. Similarly, local interests have already been fighting the central government’s environmental efforts, and they are sure to ignore any emission commitments Beijing might make if they have to bear costs.


2 posted on 01/28/2013 8:27:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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We’ll clean their air when they come do our laundry!

oh wait...


3 posted on 01/28/2013 8:32:54 AM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nine years ago , my Aunt who lived in California, went to visit China for 2 weeks.
Upon arrival at the Beijing airport, after being in the country for 30-45 minutes , she had an asthma attack and was hospitalized.
She remained hospitalized right up until her return flight back to the U.S.
The doctors were able to get her sufficiently able to fly back to the States.
She died 9 months later of respiratory illness.

The Chinese have “Chutzpah” telling us to clean up our air.
They pollute their own air, our finances , and our industries.
I call their demand what it is : B.S. !!


4 posted on 01/28/2013 8:38:15 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (To conquer a nation , first disarm it's citizens ~ Adolf Hitler)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been in Shanghai when I felt a gas mask was truly needed. In all my travels I have not experienced more polluted air.


5 posted on 01/28/2013 8:43:23 AM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think we need to send them our EPA... lock, stock, and barrel.


6 posted on 01/28/2013 8:43:49 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (What difference does it make (if they eat cake)?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I really, really hope that no FReeper reads this bizarre headline and assumes that China is actually asking the US to pay to clean up its air.

Because that is not what is happening. All this article is is a Forbes wet dream about CO2 and totalitarian control.


7 posted on 01/28/2013 8:47:22 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
The Chinese have “Chutzpah” telling us to clean up our air.

it is standard Communist operating procedure and their Gov't knows the drill well. They have learned it doesn't matter one bit how dirty their own air may be.

Play on western "guilt," and claim it is a moral issue. Aim their propoganda to those factions in the West most willing to believe and support it (the useful idiots). Create a simple, repeatable narrative with easy headlines for friendly media.

8 posted on 01/28/2013 9:21:49 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

Ummmm...YOU first, China.


9 posted on 01/28/2013 10:22:20 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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All weather flows from west to east, that is the polution in Southern California is from Inda and China, you could turn off EVERY internal compustion engine and shut down every coal, oil or gas fired industry and there woul be very little change in air quality in So. Cal


10 posted on 01/28/2013 10:27:08 AM PST by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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RE: you could turn off EVERY internal combustion engine and shut down every coal, oil or gas fired industry and there would be very little change in air quality in So. Cal

So, what accounts for the poor air quality then?


11 posted on 01/28/2013 10:31:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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the pollution from the Far East is carried across the Pacific Ocean by the air currents.
12 posted on 01/28/2013 10:37:03 AM PST by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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RE: the pollution from the Far East is carried across the Pacific Ocean by the air currents.

Shouldn’t that also make Hawaii, Oregon, and Washington State just as polluted?

I would expect Canada’s Victoria and parts of British Columbia to be polluted as well.


13 posted on 01/28/2013 11:16:30 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Stop sh*tting in your rice paddies.


14 posted on 01/28/2013 3:34:53 PM PST by ourworldawry
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16 posted on 01/28/2013 4:38:25 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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Simple answer: pay your slaves...er...workers US scale wages and then you will have to export your manufacturing and PRESTO! you’ll have nice clean air just like US.


17 posted on 01/28/2013 5:05:48 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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The LA basin is ringed by mountains on the north, south and east, thereby trapping the air. The other areas do not have this problem.


18 posted on 01/29/2013 2:24:33 PM PST by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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