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To: kabar

You and I agree on immigration reform. This is so foolish. The establiahment repub’s will destroy the party. They don’t mean to, but they do not understand what is happening, even on this one basic issue.

Ryan is now part of the problem. Now, I think the guy means well and isn’t just about protecting his own power, but he, along with too many of them, need to learn how to debate, how to negotiate, but first and foremost, need to undertand the “root causes” of their loss. IT IS because of the takers vs. makers. It IS because we have a lot of stupid people in this country. It IS about the culture (whether it’s education, family life, etc.), etc, etc, etc,

Amnesty will only increase the “takers”, open up a group to legally taking more “goodies”, and do nothing to help reelect Repub’s (unless they promise more goodies).

I like Ryan, but he needs to wake-up.


116 posted on 01/27/2013 8:20:08 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Girlene
I like Ryan, but he needs to wake-up.

Me too, but he seems to have drunk the kool-aid. He was probably told to get back on the GOPe page or lose his chairmanship or some such.

And he's jumped on board the Rubio amnesty plan.

He is another one of those who has been in Washington too long.

Potomac Fever -- it has turned many a good person into a typical politician.
125 posted on 01/27/2013 8:30:47 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Girlene
Amnesty will only increase the “takers”, open up a group to legally taking more “goodies”, and do nothing to help reelect Repub’s (unless they promise more goodies).,

Even promising more goodies will not win more votes from minorities and immigrants. It is a delusion. Any amnesty will be credited to Obama and the Dems. And the GOP will be divided as this is just another wedge issue to destroy the party. Personally, I will not vote for any Rep who supports amnesty and I have already stopped giving any money to the RNC. An amnesty will fuel a third party movement.

I already saw that the GOP is greasing the skids for amnesty by not appointing Steve King as chairman of the sub-committee on immigration. The GOP is bent on committing suicide.

127 posted on 01/27/2013 8:32:45 AM PST by kabar
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