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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Let’s slow down here....

As far as I am aware, TODAY, the ATF does NOT “copy all of the 4473’s”.

They are simply “available for inspection”.

As far as potential FUTURE intrusions, into credit card purchases, the Visa records simply indicate a purchase total at a given vendor. It DOES NOT itemize the products.
I happen to have a particular store receipt that reads “General Merchandise”.

The point I’m making is that I want to make sure we know what they ARE doing now, so we will all see the RED FLAG when they start snooping further.


21 posted on 01/25/2013 11:20:56 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry

Want to buy a bridge? Got one for sale.


23 posted on 01/25/2013 11:22:30 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: G Larry

One thing is for certain, if they want to look at your non cash purchase history it is there for the taking. Cops do it all the time.


24 posted on 01/25/2013 11:24:50 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: G Larry

I am good friends w/ a gun store owner and he tells me that during annual inspections the ATF would come w/ a copy machine. Then would then copy 4473s mostly which listed non-PC guns. I think they were mostly focused on ARs/AKs and the like. He said they backed off some when he pointed some of his store security cams at their table. Initially they wanted to use his copy machine. He had no idea what they did w/ the copies but had his suspicions. So it does occur.


29 posted on 01/25/2013 11:39:42 AM PST by 556x45
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To: G Larry
the Visa records simply indicate a purchase total at a given vendor. It DOES NOT itemize the products.

Then how was Mastercard able to verify the UPC of an item for which I filed a dispute? It is possible they retrieved an electronic copy of the receipt from the retailer AFTER I filed the dispute but it evidently WAS available.

41 posted on 01/25/2013 12:59:18 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not Nurture™)
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To: G Larry
CORRECT: Refuse, deny, delay, obstruct, sabotage any and all efforts of obozo to destroy the Constitution, Freedom and Liberty. Be creative as to what you need to do to get what you need. Go underground, join with like-minded groups for ideas, strategy, etc.

Do what the freedom fighters of wars past did..read up on them and then get going.

42 posted on 01/25/2013 1:00:28 PM PST by itssme
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To: G Larry

> “As far as I am aware, TODAY, the ATF does NOT “copy all of the 4473’s”.”

You might be out of date. There have been several reports that the BATF is now carrying those small, hand-held scanners when the are “inspecting the 4473 forms” and run it over all the pages. I am sure they are not planning to do anything illegal, though (/sarc).


56 posted on 01/28/2013 11:43:18 AM PST by jim_trent
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