“California has been republican, but it was never right wing and seriously Christian.”
Not true! For years ( years ago) I was a member of the California Republican Assembly. The CRA was ( and still is) very Conservative. At that time Orange County was as conservative a place as you would find anywhere. A lot of John Birch Society people were also in the CRA. Sadly, even Orange County isn’t so conservative any longer thanks to illegal immigration and more Liberal Migration from New York and Maryland. So I guess you think Ronald Reagan wasn’t a conservative? The other thing you make reference to is Christianity. I am a Christian myself, but it isn’t a litmus test for Conservatism for me. I know any number of Jews who are very conservative, other faiths as well. And when I see a post like yours, I think well I am dealing with someone whose religion trumps everything else. How is that different than the Muzzies? The so-called Christian Right would rather see Obama have another four years to instill Marxism, than vote for a decent man because he happens to be a Mormon. I don’t get it!
I know California politics and Texas politics, and California has never been a right wing state, Texas is.
California has been republican, but never truly conservative, and it doesn’t have the dedicated Christians like Texas does, the “Evangelical” God warriors.
Look at your own post there, you go after “The so-called Christian Right” and compare the right-wing Evangelical voting block, the culture warriors, the only true enemies of the left, to “Muzzies”.
Your post shows how and why it was easy for the left to absorb you so easily, there was never even a serious battle for California, the left took it with barely a shot being fired.
vette6387, if you want to send me nasty messages, do it on this thread, not in freepmail.
You sure are showing why California was so weak, and such easy prey to liberalism.
Um, you mean like those early pilgrims who came here and settled this country? Religious freedom is mentioned first in the Bill of Rights for a reason. Not trying to intrude on your conversation with ansell2, but that sort of comment is hard to pass up. Yes, you can have many different religions producing conservative values, and you can even have atheists who are prolife and pro-free markets, pro-gun, etc etc.
But it's like ansell said. The founders, being steeped in centuries of advanced Christian thought, engineered the best anti-tyranny machine in the history of the human race. If you want to win the fight we are in now, you need the clarity of vision that comes with that model of liberty. Christ came to set us free. Yes, spiritually first of all, but ultimately in every way that is good.
BTW, I do not regard anyone who has aspirations of deity to be a good choice of leader. We may be in a fight with Obama for some years to come, but at least we didn't pick a fight with God just to get rid of Obama. That would really be a losing proposition.
I just wish so many people had not been fooled by the mindless mantra of his much vaunted but unproven electability. And of course there was fraud, so he may have actually won and all this angst against Christian dissenters may be pointless. I don't think there were really that many of us to make a difference. I was shocked at the outcome.