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Dem. Jerrold Nadler: “2 to 4 self-defense shots are enough,” he’s a jackass – period
Coach Is Right ^ | January 17th, 2013 | Kevin Collins

Posted on 01/19/2013 7:13:27 AM PST by IbJensen

or liberals facts are never really important. “Truth” to liberals like Democrat New York City Congressman Jerrold Nadler is what he “feels” it is. Nadler has said: “Hunters don’t use large ammunition clips, and as far as self- defense, I mean who are you defending yourself against? If you’re defending yourself against a robber… two or three or four shots should be enough—period.”

It’s a safe bet Nadler has never faced an assailant fueled by adrenalin drugs and alcohol. That doesn’t matter, of course, since no one will ever challenge Nadler on his supposed knowledge of the danger presented by people who are psychotic and drunk – “period.”

The “period” at the end of Nadler’s pronouncement is the classic liberal dismissal of anyone daring to disagree with their use of “feelings” as facts.

Nadler’s fantasy about real shooting combat brings up the death of New York City Police Sergeant Edward J. Johnson.

On January 8, 1960 Sergeant Johnson and his driver were on patrol in the Bowery district of lower Manhattan. The area was dotted with dozens of soup kitchens that catered to the skid row drunks and mental patients that freely walked New York’s streets.

Johnson responded to a call of a man with a knife who was menacing the staff and clients one of those soup kitchens. When Johnson arrived another team of cops was already on the scene and attempting to subdue the man in a narrow hallway. He was clearly a drunken paranoid schizophrenic. He had a 16 inch bread knife and was not giving it up.

At some point the man lunged at Johnson and all four cops started shooting from less than seven feet away. They fired 24 shots hitting him 16 times. Four of the shots should have killed the drunken psychotic instantly. One cleanly severed his spinal cord; another went through his heart. None of those shots killed him fast enough to stop him from plunging his knife into Sergeant Edward Johnson’s heart. Johnson died at the scene. The drunken psychotic died seconds later; but way too late.

Jerrold Nadler is a jackass; but he “feels” the right way about guns so that’s good enough – period.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; demagogicparty; evilobamaregime; fatstupidnadler; guncontrol; liarsidiotsscum; newyork; newyorkcity; pompousass; secondamendment
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To: IbJensen

NYPD is legendary for its lack of shooting expertise.

Several years ago several cops got into it with a perp:

125 shots fired (total from all sides in the fight)

No one (0) was hit. Seriously.


41 posted on 01/19/2013 9:43:45 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: Vaquero
Back in the 60’s NY Cops carried .38 Wheel Guns, six shots. Then there was also the issue of weapons training, not good.

Then there was the issue of whose son, nephew, or cousin you were, and the most Important Question, were you Irish or Italian, no others need apply.

42 posted on 01/19/2013 9:49:45 AM PST by Little Bill (A)
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To: IbJensen

Couple of points:

1. Young people in the age range that are a problme are much larger than they used to be and will be harder to take down.
2. The small calibers require more ammunition as they are not nearly as destructive as a .45
3. The use of drugs by perps is nearly universal by perps and they are much harder to stop than in the past.

Nadler is completely ignorant of the subject.


43 posted on 01/19/2013 9:55:10 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: Little Bill

All true

Dad retired in 68 and gave up his model 10 s&w .38.

once a year he went to Rodman’s neck range and practiced with wad cutters. Of course he carried round nose bullets on duty and they shot to a different point of aim.
The wad cutters were so soft they filled the rifling with lead. My job was to clean it after the range. He only had a wooden cleaning rod with slot tip. So cleaning only removed powder fouling.


44 posted on 01/19/2013 10:08:01 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Little Bill

Ps. Dad was of the Italian persuasion. After the war they took him and his cousin. But he did not have a ‘rabbi’ to get him in that I know. It was a veteran thing in 1946 when he joined.


45 posted on 01/19/2013 10:11:52 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: IbJensen

Nadler asked “I mean who are you defending yourself against?”
Answer: Against jack booted thugs trying to take my weapons.


46 posted on 01/19/2013 10:16:11 AM PST by ivan65
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The only thing Nadler has ever “faced down,” was a huge brisket of beef!
When you look in the dictionary under the word “turd,” Nadler’s picture is there!


47 posted on 01/19/2013 10:38:43 AM PST by vette6387
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To: IbJensen

Ok, so let’s pass a law, or, as they are currently being called, an “Executive” order.

All criminals must die by the third shot.


48 posted on 01/19/2013 11:58:23 AM PST by blu
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To: IbJensen

Typical liberal red herring bullhockey...the 2nd Amendment is NOT about hunting or personal self defense. Any such argument regarding personal self defense and hunting, while protected by the 1st Amendment, is only aimed at creating a false problem in search of a solution. The 2nd Amendment IS about the security of a free state. Period.


49 posted on 01/19/2013 12:27:06 PM PST by pack29172 (Just remember, when seconds count, the cops are only minutes away...)
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To: Vaquero
Every on had a “Rabbi”, I did a very short tour in Armed Forces Police in NYC. The stories the the real cops told were very enlighting and cynical.
50 posted on 01/19/2013 12:47:02 PM PST by Little Bill (A)
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51 posted on 01/19/2013 4:29:41 PM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: IbJensen

Perfection, LOL.


52 posted on 01/19/2013 4:38:07 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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