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1 posted on 01/19/2013 5:17:34 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
DOI Secretary Ken Salazar is stepping down in March. His replacement needs to be someone who can be trusted to end the culture of fictional science as a means to advance environmental agendas.

Salazar is in the position he is in because he is a willing dupe, don't expect his replacement to be any less so.

The same is true with replacements of sec of state and all other cabinet level positions. We can howl to high heaven about Kerry and even if his nomination were stopped, the next nominee would be equally moon batty liberal.

2 posted on 01/19/2013 5:33:40 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.)
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To: Kaslin
His (Salazar)replacement needs to be someone who can be trusted to end the culture of fictional science as a means to advance environmental agendas.

Not a chance. The new SecDoI will be far worse as Obamugabe is unconstrained by reelection.

3 posted on 01/19/2013 5:36:47 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Kaslin
Which begs the question, “Are some government agencies manipulating science to advance political agendas?”

Heavy sigh...

I know this is pedantic, but it's a pet peeve of mine. To "beg the question" means to evade the question, not to elicit the question. Think "beg off". There was a time when any respectable news editor would never have made a mistake like that.

4 posted on 01/19/2013 5:37:05 AM PST by SeeSharp
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.... The Klamath hydroelectric dams provide clean inexpensive energy to thousands of local residents who will be forced to pay much higher premiums if the dams are removed because California has strict new laws for use of renewable energy. The town of Happy Camp sits on the banks of the Klamath River and could be wiped out with seasonal flooding without the dams.

this is UN's dangerous agenda of removing infrastructure (dams) to return land to wilderness . Saving fish is the fake reason. Once destroyed is will be too expensive to rebuild.

5 posted on 01/19/2013 5:42:02 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Kaslin

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6 posted on 01/19/2013 5:45:24 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,spend it all today;who can take your income,tax it all away..0'Bozo man can :-)
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To: Kaslin

Neo-Lysenkoism in the service of Luddism.

We are so screwed.

Remember this is the “reality based community”, the self proclaimed party of Science with a Kapital W.


7 posted on 01/19/2013 5:56:14 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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To: Kaslin

There was a recent quotation [don’t remember who] that said every movement starts off with good intentions, becomes a business and ends up a scam.......Like this one


10 posted on 01/19/2013 6:09:09 AM PST by virgil283 ( *- Never give the devil a ride. He will always want to drive.-*)
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To: Kaslin

Well—It all worked for Stalin, didn’t it?


11 posted on 01/19/2013 6:19:27 AM PST by Flintlock (H)
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To: Kaslin

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies” - Ron Paul


13 posted on 01/19/2013 6:41:05 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Kaslin
millions of tons of toxic sediment build up behind the dams that will make its way to the ocean

Yet it's now illegal to dredge because the disturbance might harm salmon... I get it.
17 posted on 01/19/2013 7:44:09 AM PST by sasquatch
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To: Kaslin

Obama’s perversion of truth and fact rivals that of Orwell’s Big Brother right down to the Ministry of Truth, the US media, who will willingly put anything down the “memory hole” that contradicts the current party line.


19 posted on 01/19/2013 7:55:07 AM PST by The Great RJ
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“coercive manipulation, sublimating science to political priorities, censorship, and scientific misconduct.”

Didn’t they accuse Bush of doing this?


20 posted on 01/19/2013 8:00:06 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: Kaslin
It's a well financed machine.
23 posted on 01/19/2013 9:09:43 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Kaslin; SierraWasp; Jeff Head; amom; forester; marsh2; blackie; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; All

“Rural America has long been a target of environmentalists.”

Ya think?????


24 posted on 01/19/2013 9:24:38 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Kaslin
I get a sardonic bemusement at articles like this, having published a book on the thesis of this article over twelve years ago. The book offered real solutions, as opposed to the implied, "things would be better if we were running it" thesis here.

I published an article for "Operation America" on FR in 2001 (now here discussing the flawed technical bases and real motives for enviro-racketeering in the Klamath basin. Nothing has changed except that the green goals are bigger than ever. It will be of some tragic irony to see what happens to the tribes that served as foils for this gambit when that river floods. Interestingly, although the fishery will be damaged by removal of those dams, a good flood would at least break up some of the gravels that they need to spawn. There was an easier way to get that done that might even make money, but nobody seems interested.

25 posted on 01/19/2013 10:36:19 AM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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I have been involved in this issue for more than a decade and Spady is right on the mark. The EIR was shocking. The scientists would come to one conclusion in their official panel report and the writer of the EIR would completely and glaringly misstate what they had said to support their dam removal agenda. Our County has indicated that it will proceed with a lawsuit I they continue with the document.

There is also another issue. The Upper Basin water is heavily nutrient rich from the millions of years of migratory birds using the shallow lakes. The dams currently act as settling ponds to remove organic matter and clean up the water. If dams are removed, the quality of the water will take a nose dive. The high summer temperatures will also create algae blooms that will remove the dissolved oxygen in the water. Between water quality and sediment, I believe there is a pretty good chance that dam removal could extirpate coho salmon and likely impact steelhead, Chinook and sturgeon as well.


28 posted on 01/19/2013 7:46:47 PM PST by marsh2
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To: Kaslin; SunkenCiv
Civ, I don't know what type of subject you're pinging on this thread but I might be interested in being on it since feral government takeover of the scientific communityTM is a subject of some interest to me.

Also, if you or anybody else is aware of a specific keyword for articles that expose and/or showcase what might otherwise be classified as "junk science" in a different context. In any case, if there's not a keyword for these types of articles, might I suggest "politicalscience"? Descriptive don't you think???

32 posted on 01/20/2013 5:11:29 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (2C7:14 If my people..shall humble themselves and pray..I will hear from heaven..and heal their land.)
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To: Kaslin
Which begs the question, “Are some government agencies manipulating science to advance political agendas?”

Have bears been known to defecate in remote wooded areas?

34 posted on 01/29/2013 7:38:00 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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