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To: LibFreeUSA
No. That is NOT TRUE! If you really believe this (that this is what the "proponents of amnesty are wont to create"), then you have fallen into the 'bait' of why there is NO resolution to this issue. That is what 'they' want you to believe.

YES, IT IS TRUE. The amnesty proponents want to create the strawman choice of blanket amnesty or mass deportation. They like to conjure up images of the Holocaust in terms of deportation. Rail cars or trucks lined up with illegal aliens. George Will on Sunday said that he had figured out the number of buses it would take to deport all the illegals. They would stretch from coast to coast.

I am a member of a grassroots immigration organization that lobbies on the Hill and in Richmond. I have been doing this for almost six years. Those in favor of amnesty say that there is no way we can deport all the illegals, hence we must legalize their status. It is an either/or proposition ignoring such things as attrition thru enforcement.

The reality of the situation is that EACH DAY nothing gets done or enforced, more and more illegals are coming in (staying in), and having more babies, and worsening the situation.

Why is nothing getting done? Do you think Obama is going to enforce our laws after he gets his amnesty? Why can't we have enforcement first? Today, Obama will say that he wants amnesty now and that the border is under control. As an aside, even if the border was under control, that doesn't address the 40% of illegals who entered legally and overstayed their visas.

Many states are cracking down on illegals. SCOTUS upheld the AZ law on mandatory E-verify. Parts of AZ 1070 were upheld and being impelemented in Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia, etc.

One side is adamant TO NOT allow ANY "amnesty", while the daily illegal streaming continues unabated. The other side is CONTENT to not GET ANYTHING DONE and letting the daily illegal streaming continue (while saying that they WANT something done / see Obama's 1st 4 years).

Illegal entry is down primarily due to our poor economy. Mexico has a lower unemployment rate than the US. India and China have become two of the largest sources of illegal immigrants. George Bush was actually worse than Obama when it comes to immigration and the enforcement of our laws. Don't forget that amnesty (Hagel-Martinez) passed in the Rep-controlled Senate in 2006.

Motivated by parochial self-interest, the pro-mass immigration, open borders, amnesty advocates have formed a powerful coalition including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, labor union leaders, the Catholic Church, ethnic and racial groups, “moderate” Republicans, and the Democrat Party. The common thread that unites these groups is power, money, and the prospect of increased constituencies, even at the expense of our long-term national interests and survival.

YOU NEED THE "VOTES" TO "TURN THE FAUCET OFF", and Rubio is trying to do that!

VOTES FROM WHOM TO DO WHAT? DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL ENFORCE OUR LAWS AFTER AN AMNESTY IS PASSED. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT HAPPENED IN 1986 WITH THE SIMPSON-MAZZOLI AMNESTY.

This is another case of Charlie Brown and the football. The Reps fall for it every time. It is like raising taxes now and cutting spending later. Let's have more enforcement now before any amnesty is considered. The 1986 amnesty was supposed to be the first and only one. Now we are talking about a second amnesty. Once that is passed, more illegals will enter for the third one. When you reward something, you get more of it.

Rubio is just rehashing the McCain-Kennedy amnesty. It is pure political pandering and it will destroy this country along with the GOP. Do you really think most of the GOP base will support amnesty?

YOUR proposals, while gallant, do nothing to get the VOTES to turn the faucet off! Which keeps us right where we are!

Rubio's proposal will destroy this country. What is the urgency of legalizing the status of illegal aliens? They are already here. And if the truth be known, our legal immigration policies amount to an amnesty every 10 years. The last decade ending in 2010 was the highest in our history in terms of legal immigrants--13.9 million. During that same period we had a net loss of jobs of 400,000. Immigrants are disproportionately on welfare, food stamps, etc. They are less educated, which means they will receive more in government benefits than they pay in taxes. At least half of the illegal aliens lack even a high school degree. Do we really need to legalize millions more high school dropouts?

And Rubio wants to double the number of H1B visas. In the past, the cry was that immigrants do the jobs Americans won't do. That affected blue collar workers. Now, it is about bringing in immigrants to do jobs Americans can't do. This is insanity in a country that has 23 million Americans looking for fulltime employment.

48 posted on 01/29/2013 10:38:37 AM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
"attrition thru enforcement."

That's a nice 'idea'..... how many "votes" do you have for such a plan?

If we get 60 Republicans in the Senate, PLUS a Republican President, with a Republican House, I see that being passed. In the meantime, what happens????

51 posted on 01/29/2013 12:34:18 PM PST by LibFreeUSA
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To: kabar
"Rubio is just rehashing the McCain-Kennedy amnesty. It is pure political pandering and it will destroy this country along with the GOP. Do you really think most of the GOP base will support amnesty?

So, i suppose it's better to have nothing done, all the while they keep coming in with no enforcement being done, once they are here! Great!! Hold on to your "principles" while the country slides into the abyss!!!!

52 posted on 01/29/2013 12:42:13 PM PST by LibFreeUSA
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