Marco Rubio Outlines Elements of His New Immigration Plan

New York Times ^ | 01/18/2013 | Julia Preston

[SeekAndFind]

Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a Republican who is on a talking tour to publicize his proposals for an immigration overhaul, said on Thursday that tighter enforcement at the borders and in workplaces would be central to his plan, which would also offer legal status to millions of illegal immigrants.

In a meeting in New York with reporters and editors of The New York Times, Mr. Rubio said that any broad immigration legislation should create a nationwide exit system to check foreigners out of the country, to confirm that they left before their visas expired. He noted that at least 40 percent of an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the country came on legal visas but then overstayed.

Mr. Rubio said he would also insist on a nationwide program for employers to verify the legal authorization of new workers, although he did not specify whether he would favor an expansion of an existing federal electronic worker verification program or seek to create a new one.

Mr. Rubio, 41, the conservative son of blue-collar Cuban exiles who won his Senate seat in 2010 with support from the Tea Party, has been shaking up the Republican Party’s immigration politics with his proposals to offer legal status and eventually American citizenship to immigrants here illegally. Since the November elections, many Republican leaders have said the party should find an alternative to the policy of “self-deportation” for illegal immigrants, which turned many Latino voters away from the party’s presidential candidate, Mitt Romney.

On Monday, Mr. Romney’s running mate, Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, shifted to Mr. Rubio’s approach, endorsing the senator’s principles and saying the two would work together on immigration legislation. On Wednesday, Bill O’Reilly, the conservative media personality, added his endorsement, telling Mr. Rubio he liked his program.

[Little Ray]

First and foremost it should be easier for legal visitors to extend their visas. I’ve heard that the bureaucracy for this is nightmarish.

[Little Ray]

It should be the second step - after fortifying the southern border.

[AuntB]

“Watch an interview with Rubio and his plan is excellent. This is the first comprehensive plan on the table and is the best answer to the problem.”

I tend to agree, amnesty is coming and his isn’t as bad as some.

“The crazy idea to round all the illegals up and send them back is the most childish immature bunch of silliness I ever heard so spare some of us with this crap. “

THAT is the law...deportation. And yes, it has and can work. Silly?? IGNORING OUR LAWS and making excuses for lawbreaking invaders is SILLY.

[CowboyJay]

"I think the GOP likes to perpetually come in second in a two party race and let the Democrats implement the Big Government they really want."

Winner!

Hard to play the patronage game if the pork fountain were ever shut off. Notice how the "other side" can always find at least one "defector" for crucial votes?

[kabar]

I am in favor of legal immigration and would welcome those who do it properly

Do you favor 1.2 million LEGAL immigrants a year while 23 million Americans are looking for full time employment? The decade ending in 2010 was the highest in our history in terms of numbers--13.9 million. During that same period, we suffered a net loss of jobs--a minus 400,000.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 90 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in a net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 315 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by 130 million to 445 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration.

[ridesthemiles]

Employers are required to screen applicants & NOT hire a person who isn’t allowed to work in the USA.

Starting with the I-9, there are many pieces of ID required. Then an employer can use electronic methods to verify with the Soc Sec Administration.

I will post here the EXACT information I have from the SPRING 2010 copy of a quarterly ‘newsletter’ called The Rposrter, which is put out by the SSA & the IRS. It comes with the quarterly forms used to make payroll reporting, the 941 form.

I Quote:
Title: Social Security Offers Consent-Based Social Security Number Verification Service

Social Security welcomes new customers to enroll in it Consent-Based Social Security Number Verification service (CBSV). CBSV went live in 2008 and more than 100 companies have enrolled to use this service.

CBSV permits private businesses, government agencies or tax preparers to verify whether a name and Social Security number (SSN) combination match the data in its Master File of SSNs. It provides instant, automated SSN verification and it easily handles large volume requests.

Using CBSV, participating companies can verify the SSNs of their customers and clients. Companies using CBSV include firms providing background and pre-employment checks, tax preparation and financial services. Users have a choice of three possible modes of access to CBSV: web service, internet online or batch.

CBSV requires participating companies to pay a fee and obtain the written consent of the SSN holder. This consent authorizes Social Security to disclose the SSN verification to the requesting party. CBSV results may only be used for the reason the number holder specifies on the consent form. An Employer Identification Number (EIN) is required to enroll and become a CBSV user.

How to Enroll:

To use CBSV, a company must sign an agreement with Socisl Security, pay a non-refundable enrollment fee of $5,000 and then pay a transaction fee per SSN verification request. The transaction fee is presently $.56 and must be paid in advance. Periodically, Social Security will recalculate the costs it incurs in providing the CBSV service and, as needed, will adjust the transaction fee it charges. Subscribers will be notified in writing of any change in the transaction fee. Social Security may close enrollment to CBSV at its discretion.

Is is important to note that CBSV is different from Social Security’s other SSN verification service service, Social Security Number Verification Service (SSNVS). SSNVS is solely for employers verifying the information of their employees or former employees before preparing and submitting forms W-2 and it cannot be nsed as part of a pre-hiring process. Since SSNVS supports Social Security’s program administration, there are no fees for using SSNVS and the signed consent of the number holder is not needed.

CBSV, of the other hand, is available to any interested party with an EIN. Is is important to note that CBSV is available to tax preparers and also may be used for pre-employment checks. CBSV will verify a name and SSN combination as matching or not matching SSA records for any party registered to use the service, but fees are charged and the number’s written consent is required.

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Soooo—A legal employer in the USA must pay a NON-REFUNDABLE FEE of $5000 to get the correct information from the SS admin.

What about E-Verify?

Who acministers that? What is the cost to employers???

No wonder so many illegals are working in the USA.

As a life-long bookkeeper, I would NEVER advise any client of mine to pay a non-refundable Fee of $5000 to the government to comply with their demands.

They can KMA.

[kabar]

Why should it be easier to extend one's visa. We have over 50 million visitors a year. There are a number of countries that participate in the visa wavier program that allows citizens of those countries to enter without tourist/business visas. They can stay up to 90 days. Visa Wavier Program

We have over 900,000 foreign students attending US universites.

You do understand that much of our visa program is based on reciprocity. Why should we make it easier for visitors to stay longer when other countries don't extend the same privilege to our citizens visiting their countries?

[kabar]

What about E-Verify? Who acministers that? What is the cost to employers???

E-Verify is administered by USCIS. It is free for employers to use.

[elpadre]

they come on legal visitor visas and never leave. It has been a problem for many years. This is the first time I have seen a number attached to them.

[Little Ray]

By “easier” I meant less of a bureaucratic nightmare. Whether the answer is yes or no, it should be easy and fast to get it. Perhaps I should have said “apply” for an extension.

In any case, I don’t know why we should care what other countries do, unless they find something that works really well and might work here...

[JustSayNoToNannies]

tighter enforcement at the borders and in workplaces [...]
legal status to millions of illegal immigrants. [...]
a nationwide exit system to check foreigners out of the country, to confirm that they left before their visas expired. [...]
a nationwide program for employers to verify the legal authorization of new workers

I'll take all but the second one.

'[A] poll of Hispanic, Asian-American, and African-American likely voters finds some support for legalization. But overall each of these groups prefers enforcement and for illegal immigrants to return home. Moreover, significant majorities of all three groups think that the current level of immigration is too high.' - more details at http://www.cis.org/Minority-Views-Immigration

[kabar]

By “easier” I meant less of a bureaucratic nightmare. Whether the answer is yes or no, it should be easy and fast to get it.

As someone who has actually issued visas, I have no idea what you mean by "bureaucratic nightmare." When vistors are issued their visas overseas to enter the US, they understand the length of time the visa is valid for. They must prove that they have a valid reason to extend their stay in the US beyond the authorized period. This country is no different than any other when it comes to the extension of a visa. Can you identify any other country that makes it easier and faster?

In any case, I don’t know why we should care what other countries do, unless they find something that works really well and might work here

Then you don't understand the concept of reciprocity. American citizens deserve equal treatment from other countries, i.e., the same treatment we provide their citizens. To demand less puts our citizens at risk in many ways.

[kabar]

Extend Your Stay

If you want to extend your stay in the United States, you must file a request with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on the Form I-539, Application to Extend/Change Nonimmigrant Status before your authorized stay expires. If you remain in the United States longer than authorized, you may be barred from returning and/or you may be removed (deported) from the United States. Check the date in the lower right-hand corner of your Form I-94, Arrival-Departure Record, to determine the date your authorized stay expires. We recommend that you apply to extend your stay at least 45 days before your authorized stay expires.

You may apply to extend your stay if:

You were lawfully admitted into the United States with a nonimmigrant visa

Your nonimmigrant visa status remains valid

You have not committed any crimes that make you ineligible for a visa

You have not violated the conditions of your admission

Your passport is valid and will remain valid for the duration of your stay

You may not apply to extend your stay if you were admitted to the United States in the following categories:

Visa Waiver Program

Crew member (D nonimmigrant visa)

In transit through the United States (C nonimmigrant visa)

In transit through the United States without a visa (TWOV)

Fiancé of a U.S. citizen or dependent of a fiancé (K nonimmigrant visa)

Informant (and accompanying family) on terrorism or organized crime (S nonimmigrant visa)

[Aetius]

Kabar has already pointed out the falsehood that amnesty opponents are calling for a mass round up of all illegal aliens, and how granting citizenship to illegals is a sure-fire way to create lots of new Democrats.

It’s this last point that really makes the Rubio plan frustrating. If he (and Paul Ryan) have given up and surrendered to the idea that most current illegal aliens must be granted a path to citizenship, then why not at least try to get some conservative reform added to balance that?

Why not try to end chain migration by limiting family sponsorships to spouses, elderly parents, and minor children? Why not cut back on refugee settlements? Why not end the absurd Diversity Lottery Visas (which in turn kick off new channels of future Democrat chain migration)?

Why not do something to end mass immigration and cut off the mass flow of future Democrats? If Republican leadership weren’t dominated by those who are either (a)liberal on immigration like the Bush family, or (b)afraid of being called names, then they could make a case to the public and win most over on this. They could put the Democrats on defense and make them explain why, in an era of high unemployment, they want to continue admitting over a million immigrants each year.

I mean, is there not one bit of conservative reform Rubio supports?

[VRW Conspirator]

:It should be the second step - after fortifying the southern border.

I fear it will have to take a catostrophic terrorist event to force the politicians to lock up the border, like terrorists flying planes into buildings or something.

[kabar]

Right on, brother. Immigration reform could be a winner for Republicans if they use it the right way. Instead, they are being stampeded by the amnesty crowd that will make the Dems the permanent majority party and destroy this nation.

[Little Ray]

Doesn’t seem to work that way, or, judging from way Mexico treats gringo lawbreakers, a lot of illegal aliens pray for deportation if we “reciprocated”...

In general, I’d expect the US to behave better than the “lesser breeds without the law.”

[Little Ray]

No “elderly parents.” Why should we have to start paying them Social Security and Medicare right off the boat?

[OldNewYork]

Exit stage left, Rubio.

[kabar]

It does work that way. For example, we don’t need visas to go to the 37 countries that are part of the visa wavier program.