It’s J.C. Penney’s property. If they prohibit guns, it’s their right, as unwise as some of us think that is.There may be some precedent for this. In the movies, at least.
Posted on 01/18/2013 8:28:55 AM PST by Daffynition
Must not have been against store policy because I did not see were it said he was arrested.
Why is it “showing off?”
You sound more like my sourpuss, cynical step-father than a man grounded in his roots.
It’s not a matter of arrogance or pride. It’s a matter of exercising a RIGHT. It’s my RIGHT to do this.
That's my First Amendment Right your talking about. You have no 2nd Amendments Right to carry on private property. Don't believe me? Try carrying a rifle slung over your shoulder into a federal building. Try the IRS building for grins and come back and report to me. They may infringe upon you enough to convince you that you might be wrong.
It’s J.C. Penney’s property. If they prohibit guns, it’s their right, as unwise as some of us think that is.There may be some precedent for this. In the movies, at least.
Listen, I’ve come right out in my posts and said you have just as much right to say what you’re saying by way of the 1st as I do to carry by way of the 2nd.
Problem here is that I live in Florida, and open-carry isn’t legal. So yeah, I’m not going to go out carrying openly, but you can bet your bottom dollar that I’ll be carrying concealed. And you know what? There’s an exhaustive list of businesses I will not patronize due to their anti-gun policies. I’ve made it public and spoken openly in my local media about it.
The whole open carry in a Federal building is another canard. Can’t carry in a courthouse either. In Florida, you can’t carry in a lot of places. Guess what? It’s the State’s and the Fed’s rights to pass those laws.
Unless and until the Feds or my State say that no one may carry anywhere at any time, I’m going to exercise my right. If I lived in an open carry state, I would do so. That does not make me a bozo or an “attention seeker.” That makes me a responsible, law-abiding citizen.
Your right JCP is private property. If JCP store policy is no firearms why was he not arrested? And if he was arrested I do believe it would have been stated in the article.
I probably am like him. You sound like a headstrong son-in-law that won't listen to reason. Your actions will have MORE "No Guns Allowed" signs popping up. More Gun Free Zones because he/you don't want to practice CCW.
I really don’t think protection of other citizens even crossed his mind!
Hell maybe he was just trying to thin the line!
And when those signs “pop up”, then I shop elsewhere.
Your actions will have MORE "No Guns Allowed" signs popping up.
I don't believe this, and I challenge you to find any instances of this happening on a large scale. Franchise and corporate businesses, I can understand. My local breakfast nook has a sign on their door that says, "We welcome law-abiding gun owners" on their door. The 80+ year old, 4'11" owner of the place has a S&W .38 revolver on her hip in a very ornate, very well-worn leather holster.
I think more people would carry than you would guess, and no store is going to ban a large portion of their clientele for exercising their right.
“He’s just provoking a reaction.”
Good. All those who are offended can go F’themselves.
You are absolutely correct, however after that you are not.
Neither the Federal building or the IRS building are private property nor have they ever been. Government building may have their own sets of rules/regs but in no way, shape or form are they private property.
If lots of people carry, it's no big deal and everyone behaves themselves. It's a concept gun-grabbers just don't get.
Wrong. They pop up because the store owner is a hoplophobic moron caving in to panicked sheep.
“Oh, look at that dangerous pistol grip and fore grip, and the scary banana magazine”
Ok, One of my kinda pet peeves, if you will, is someone calling a magazine a clip. I’m trying to get over it but whatever.
But, if you are going to call a 30 rd mag a “banana” then it’s prolly just as well to call it a “banana clip”
Thanks for your time
I agree but my point was that the 2nd Amendment is not an absolute right to employ anywhere you desire. Some people here seem to overlook that fact and in so doing will incur MORE restrictions than if they would use some common (or uncommon) sense. Why give the other side more ammunition to bring more restrictions and more gun-free zones? CCW will protect you and others and the store from acting on a situation that some people created.
In most states if you carried there it is NOT something the cops can ‘walk you to jail’ for. Ignoring the sign is not a crime. They have to ask you to leave. If the owner asks you to leave AND you refuse then you can be nailed for trespass.
Some states added language to their CCW laws that made it a misdemeanor to ignore the ‘no gun’ sign. In those places you can be hauled off. But everywhere else it is still a free country until the owner asks you to leave.
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