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If Americans are too chicken to fight against federal gestapo thugs, then those same Americans are too chicken to pound on doors and demand that people surrender their weapons.

I worry about that. At the most simplistic level, all political systems are either Collectivist or Individualist. Socialists, Communists, Fascists, and Democrats are all Collectivists. There are few examples of Individualists systems -- what we are trying to preserve is perhaps the only one.

Men in a collective can do very bad things -- peer pressure, shared, guilt, whatever. Groups do things that individuals will not do (are unwilling to do). Will a group of cowards pound on a door and take away a father from a screaming family? Yes, a group of cowards will do that -- because they are a group.

So the question is: Will an individual stand strong against tyranny, even when it travels in packs? Some indivuals will, certainly. But as many men have become neutered, the pool of courageous individuals declines -- but the mass of cowardly group-thinkers who will do anything they are told to do is probably about as large as ever. That's bad.

“I worry about that. At the most simplistic level, all political systems are either Collectivist or Individualist.”

Good point. What Americans fear is that they will need to stand alone if confiscation starts, but back up that individual with a dozen men and the recipe changes - strength in numbers.

Conservatives, at present, are crap at organizing. But once they get going, there are none better.

There’s legislation going forward in some states to arrest and disarm federal fascists. When the individuals states band together and pledge to back individual citizens, then we have another different scenario. I’ve never seen this before, and patriots are running for state legislative seats that will make this happen. We have one individual running for a special election state house seat. His platform is resistance to the federal government, and he’ll likely win the election.

"but the mass of cowardly group-thinkers who will do anything they are told to do is probably about as large as ever. That's bad."

I saw this behavior deeply embedded in corporate America. People are attracted by popularity and without a deep sense of right and wrong, lacking confidence in their own ability to overcome personal challenges, they rationalize compromising morales and justify following orders that benefit their own self interest.