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Scarborough Warns: GOP ‘Better Tread Lightly,’ Obama Gun Proposals Enjoy ‘Overwhelming Support’
mediate.com ^ | 1/17/13 | Andrew Kirell

Posted on 01/17/2013 12:49:03 PM PST by ColdOne

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1 posted on 01/17/2013 12:49:10 PM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

sorry Joe, no one on earth cares what you say any more


2 posted on 01/17/2013 12:50:32 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: ColdOne

Tread lightly?

What a (self-edit)

I’d say more, but I better quit while I’m behind.


3 posted on 01/17/2013 12:51:29 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: ColdOne

Meanwhile I am sitting here wondering who would not be with us today had a certain young, attractive intern to a Pensacola area Republican Congressman been armed.


4 posted on 01/17/2013 12:52:14 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: ColdOne
By this comment, Scarborough must rely on the constitutional illiteracy he believes the "progressives" have achieved in recent decades.

Those who love liberty must undertake a massive outreach to millions of fellow citizens who have been victims of the so-called "progressive" censorship of the principles and ideas underlying their Constitution's protections. Such an effort is possible now, however, given the gift of technology which makes available the writings and speeches of the Founders at the click of a mouse, in every household in America.

Remember, an arrogant man who trusts his own judgment, largely informed by late-19th Century ideologues and the university professors and "progressives" who influenced his thinking, is no match for the wisdom and genius of the Framers of the United States Constitution.

The words of America's Founders, its Supreme Court Justices, its early Presidents and Statesmen attest to the wisdom of its structuring of, and strictly limiting, the coercive powers of all who might be elected to serve under and by its authority. The following essay, quoted with permission, originally published in the Constitution's Bicentennial Year - 1987 - may be downloaded here.

Our Ageless Constitution

"The structure has been erected by architects of consummate skill and fidelity; its foundations are solid; its components are beautiful, as well as useful; its arrangements are full of wisdom and order...."
-Justice Joseph Story

Justice Story's words pay tribute to the United States Constitution and its Framers. Shortly before the 100th year of the Constitution, in his "History of the United States of America," written in 1886, historian George Bancroft said:

"The Constitution is to the American people a possession for the ages."

He went on to say:

"In America, a new people had risen up without king, or princes, or nobles....By calm meditation and friendly councils they had prepared a constitution which, in the union of freedom with strength and order, excelled every one known before; and which secured itself against violence and revolution by providing a peaceful method for every needed reform. In the happy morning of their existence as one of the powers of the world, they had chosen Justice as their guide."

And two hundred years after the adoption of this singularly-important document, praised by Justice Story in one century and Historian Bancroft in the next and said by Sir William Gladstone to be "the most wonderful work ever struck off at a given moment by the brain and purpose of man," the Constitution of 1787 - with its Bill of Rights - remains. . . a bulwark for liberty, an ageless formula for the government of a free people.

In what sense can any document prepared by human hands be said to be ageless? What are the qualities or attributes which give it permanence?

The Qualities of Agelessness

America's Constitution had its roots in the nature, experience, and habits of humankind, in the experience of the American people themselves - their beliefs, customs, and traditions, and in the practical aspects of politics and government. It was based on the experience of the ages. Its provisions were designed in recognition of principles which do not change with time and circumstance, because they are inherent in human nature.

"The foundation of every government," said John Adams, "is some principle or passion in the minds of the people." The founding generation, aware of its unique place in the ongoing human struggle for liberty, were willing to risk everything for its attainment. Roger Sherman stated that as government is "instituted for those who live under it ... it ought, therefore, to be so constituted as not to be dangerous to liberty." And the American government was structured with that primary purpose in mind - the protection of the peoples liberty.

Of their historic role, in framing a government to secure liberty, the Framers believed that the degree of wisdom and foresight brought to the task at hand might well determine whether future generations would live in liberty or tyranny. As President Washington so aptly put it, "the sacred fire of liberty" might depend "on the experiment intrusted to the hands of the American people" That experiment, they hoped, would serve as a beacon of liberty throughout the world.

The Framers of America's Constitution were guided by the wisdom of previous generations and the lessons of history for guidance in structuring a government to secure for untold millions in the future the unalienable rights of individuals. As Jefferson wisely observed:

"History, by apprising the people of the past, will enable them to judge of the future; it will avail them of the experience of other times and other nations; it will qualify them as judges of the actions and designs of men; it will enable them to know ambition under every disguise it may assume; and knowing it, to defeat its views."(Underlining added for emphasis)

The Constitution, it has been said, was "not formed upon abstraction," but upon practicality. Its philosophy and prin­ciples, among others, incorporated these practical aspects:

The Constitution of the United States of America structured a government for what the Founders called a "virtuous people - that is, a people who would be able, as Burke put it, to "put chains on their own appetites" and, without the coercive hand of government, to live peaceably without violating the rights of others. Such a society would need no standing armies to insure internal order, for the moral beliefs, customs, and love for liberty motivating the actions of the people and their representatives in government - the "unwritten" constitution - would be in keeping with their written constitution.

George Washington, in a speech to the State Governors, shared his own sense of the deep roots and foundations of the new nation:

"The foundation of our empire was not laid in the gloomy age of ignorance and superstition; but at an epocha when the rights of mankind were better understood and more clearly defined, than at any former period.... the treasures of knowledge, acquired by the labors of philosophers, sages, and legislators, through a long succession of years, are laid open for our use, and their collective wisdom may be happily applied in the establishment of our forms of government."

And Abraham Lincoln, in the mid-1800's, in celebrating the blessings of liberty, challenged Americans to transmit the "political edifice of liberty and equal rights" of their constitutional government to future generations:

"In the great journal of things happening under the sun, we, the American people, find our account running ... We find ourselves in the peaceful possession, of the fairest portion of the earth....We find ourselves under the government of a system of political institutions, conducing more essentially to the ends of civil and religious liberty, than any of which the history of former times tells us. We found ourselves the legal inheritors of these fundamental blessings. We toiled not in the acquirement or establishment of them - They are a legacy bequeathed us, by a once hardy, brave, and patriotic...race of ancestors. Theirs was the task (and nobly they performed it) to possess themselves, and through themselves, us, of this goodly land; and to uprear upon its hills and its valleys, a political edifice of liberty and equal rights, 'tis ours only, to transmit these...to the latest generation that fate shall permit the world to know...."

Because it rests on sound philosophical foundations and is rooted in enduring principles, the United States Constitution can, indeed, properly be described as "ageless," for it provides the formula for securing the blessings of liberty, establishing justice, insuring domestic tranquillity, promoting the general welfare, and providing for the common defense of a free people who understand its philosophy and principles and who will, with dedication, see that its integrity and vigor are preserved.

Justice Joseph Story was quoted in the caption of this essay as attesting to the skill and fidelity of the architects of the Constitution, its solid foundations, the practical aspects of its features, and its wisdom and order. The closing words of his statement, however, were reserved for use here; for in his 1789 remarks, he recognized the "ageless" quality of the magnificent document, and at the same time, issued a grave warning for Americans of all centuries. He concluded his statement with these words:

"...and its defenses are impregnable from without. It has been reared for immortality, if the work of man may justly aspire to such a title. It may, nevertheless, perish in an hour by the folly, or corruption, or negligence of its only keepers, THE PEOPLE. Republics are created by virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens."

Our ageless constitution can be shared with the world and passed on to generations far distant if its formula is not altered in violation of principle through the neglect of its keepers - THE PEOPLE.


Our Ageless Constitution, W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part VII:  ISBN 0-937047-01-5

5 posted on 01/17/2013 12:52:21 PM PST by loveliberty2 ( -)
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I’d say more, but I better quit while I’m behind. you and me both.. I have a major headache plus my brain exploded through my eyes and now I have to clean up the mess off the wall from this jerk.
6 posted on 01/17/2013 12:53:32 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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The GOP is already being pu$$y whipped?

There is no overwhelming support. There is just a bunch of citizens driven mad by Obama propaganda and his Cloward -Priven strategy. That kind of emotional hoo-haw can hardly be equated with support.

Anyone who is trukly educated on the facts would never support Obama’s gun control initiative. It will save no one, especially children in schools.


7 posted on 01/17/2013 12:53:52 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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the policy proposals have the “overwhelming” support of the American people



Says an Extreme Left Winger....
8 posted on 01/17/2013 12:53:52 PM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: ColdOne
The liberal media is touting a whole raft of these poll results but the congress is unimpressed. I expect little or no action, maybe tweaking the background checks, and some throwing of money at "studies." Not much more.
9 posted on 01/17/2013 12:54:05 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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We're SO scared Joe....If the Obama drones couldn't show up in enough numbers in 2012, with the great messiah himself being on the ballot, to oust the Republican majority in the House, they don't stand a chance in 2014 and the Republican majority shouldn't even worry about them.
10 posted on 01/17/2013 12:54:34 PM PST by apillar
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Ah yes. Good old engineered or manufactured consent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Engineering_of_Consent

Most rational people would agree with me on this. ;~)


11 posted on 01/17/2013 12:54:43 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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The ruthless demogaouge has the support of the mob?

Time to put on the shtt kickers...not “tread lightly.”

12 posted on 01/17/2013 12:55:35 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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Joe is SUCH a putz.


13 posted on 01/17/2013 12:55:40 PM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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To: ColdOne

Overwhelming support from where..the 5 viewers who watch MSDNC


14 posted on 01/17/2013 12:56:44 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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Joe who? Someone I should know? Someone I should give a sh*t about their opinion?

I didn’t think so.


15 posted on 01/17/2013 12:57:14 PM PST by HotHunt
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23 “executive actions” signed into law yesterday

Only in hell could Obama's actions be considered "signed" into law.

From Article One, Section One of the US Constitution ... ."All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Obama's way is precisely the way Adolf Hitler started out in 1933.

16 posted on 01/17/2013 1:00:11 PM PST by OldNavyVet
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'Overwhelming support'...that explains the lines out to the frickin' horizon at every gun store and gun show over the past few months...

Those knock-off fragrances Mika's wearing have fried what's left of your brain, Joe...cash the checks while you still can.

17 posted on 01/17/2013 1:00:34 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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Last night I stumbled onto Joe on PBS, talking about gun control....and I couldn’t believe it.

Every time he spouted some leftist propaganda, he made a point of telling the audience he was a Republican.

He might be a Republican; but, he’s not a conservative.

Joe makes me sick.


18 posted on 01/17/2013 1:01:20 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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Joe ought to shut the hell up about some poll that was 9% weighted in favor of the Dims and also the pollster was/is an employee of ABC News. What a crock the GOP should grow a pair and start impeachment proceedings for ALL the violations of the constitution.


19 posted on 01/17/2013 1:01:27 PM PST by Warrior Nurse (Soldier, family, conservative and proud because that is what America needs in order to thrive)
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Joe S is revolting, even moreso than the self described leftists on that show.


20 posted on 01/17/2013 1:04:06 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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