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TODAY SHOW - NO "ASSAULT WEAPONS" USED IN SANDY HOOK MASSACRE
Today show ^ | 12-15-2012 | NBC

Posted on 01/17/2013 6:38:37 AM PST by AngryCapitalist

Pete Williams reports that no AR USED AT SANDY HOOK! Only 4 handguns found, Lanza left his rifle in the car. This is why Sandy HOOK was never mentioned at yesterday's signing by Barry.

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

(Excerpt) Read more at video.today.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; liberalmedia; nbc; nbcnews; newtown; sandyhook; sandyhookshooting; sandyhookweapons; secondamendment
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Fox was citing "the Feds" as their source for the AR 15 being found in the trunk.

And Pete Williams at NBC said that the Feds were his source for the "4 handguns and 4 handguns only" account. But he seemed uncomfortable saying it.

If anything, it appears that the Feds were pushing the "handguns" as the weapon not the Bushmaster. Was that their agenda -- the handguns not the ARs.

Remember the story was initially that he was buzzed in -- thus he must have had guns that were unseen -- thus handguns.

And now they got people falling all over themselves still pushing the Feds initial line that has since been corrected by those closest to the facts.

221 posted on 01/17/2013 1:17:52 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: FR_addict

Sorry, not interested in that controversy. I was referring to my observation, either via online video streaming or O-T-A TV, that the “shooter’s vehicle” trunk lid or hatch appeared to have been opened by the time or not long after helicopter camera(s) arrived and I think I saw it remain open with no one standing at the rear.


223 posted on 01/17/2013 1:19:06 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Sirius Lee

“I don’t agree with the people saying this event didn’t happen. But I sure as hell don’t believe it went down the way the feds are claiming.”

That’s what I’m beginning to realize.


224 posted on 01/17/2013 1:22:55 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: ILS21R

“So now they would know the difference. Right?”

No, why would the media know the difference now? They seem to have intentional selective hearing loss when it comes to anything having to do with firearms, weapons, or military equipment.

“Do you have a photo of the vest Lanza was wearing?”

Nope. Do you have a photo of the vest?


225 posted on 01/17/2013 1:27:27 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Sirius Lee
It's odd, but there is a pattern here and it merits investigation.

But any investigation should start with he facts not the denial of them as is the case with the agnostics here.

226 posted on 01/17/2013 1:30:55 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Boogieman
“Do you have a photo of the vest Lanza was wearing?”

Nope. Do you have a photo of the vest?


Now we're getting somewhere! Finally, this thread is beginning to delve deep to the bottom of things.
227 posted on 01/17/2013 1:31:23 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Boogieman

>>No, but Lt. Vance was there, and he says:

“It was a fishing type vest, a jacket with a lot of pockets; it was not a bullet-proof vest,” Vance said.”<<

1. We don’t know that Vance was there.

2. Vance is a state police “spokesman”.

Just like Susan Rice was a spokesman for Benghazi. Vance is just saying what someone higer up is telling him to say... almost 2 week later.

In the Aurora shooting the chief of police identified Holmes as wearing a tactical vest that same day. You see... the chief of police. That day. Not a spokesman. Not weeks after.

If they say Lanza was wearing a bulletproof vest early on, then he was wearing a bulletproof vest.


228 posted on 01/17/2013 1:33:11 PM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: Uncle Chip
But any investigation should start with he facts not the denial of them as is the case with the agnostics here.

One man's "the agnostics" is another man's "those who don't agree with me".
229 posted on 01/17/2013 1:34:28 PM PST by Resettozero
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To: Boogieman

>>Nope. Do you have a photo of the vest?<<

No. But I’ll go with the initial report, before they could change the narrative.


230 posted on 01/17/2013 1:34:48 PM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: Uncle Chip
But any investigation should start with he facts

The media has already proven itself to color, obfuscate, and outright lie in order to advance a very specific and long range agenda that is hostile to Liberty, so where do you suggest "facts" can be obtained by the average Joe?

231 posted on 01/17/2013 1:39:23 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: ILS21R

What’s your explanation as to why they would change the narrative from a bullet-proof vest to a fishing type vest?


232 posted on 01/17/2013 1:40:08 PM PST by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: Sirius Lee
At 2:33 of the long aerial video on this site it does appear that they grab 2, count them TWO long guns.

And what video would that be??? The only one I have seen shows them taking only one gun out -- and that was a shotgun.

233 posted on 01/17/2013 1:40:17 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: AngryCapitalist

bfl


234 posted on 01/17/2013 1:49:33 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Uncle Chip

He’s talking about this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ubdjO_dRY&feature=player_embedded

I can see the shotgun, and they look like they’re taking something else out of the car. As they walk away, you can see one guy carrying the shotgun. And I can’t tell what the other guy is carrying—maybe a stack of Saiga magazines or a box of ammo. I can’t make out what it is. Or maybe I’m looking at the wrong guy.


235 posted on 01/17/2013 1:50:13 PM PST by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: Uncle Chip
And what video would that be??? The only one I have seen shows them taking only one gun out -- and that was a shotgun.

I have seen the video to which I think you're referring as well and for the last couple of weeks thought there was only the shotgun, but apparently that video was either edited (hmmmm) , or the video below is different altogether.

Keep your eyes peeled at 2:33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ubdjO_dRY

236 posted on 01/17/2013 1:50:32 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: FreedomForce

>>What’s your explanation as to why they would change the narrative from a bullet-proof vest to a fishing type vest?<<

To make it look like Lanza acted alone. You see, Lanza would have to look exactly like the actual killer to ID him.

And the actual killer would have worn a bulletproof vest. You never know who has a gun these days! If he got killed, it would have ruined the entire plan that is now unfolding.

That’s why.


237 posted on 01/17/2013 1:51:41 PM PST by ILS21R (Everything is a conspiracy. No? You're living in one.)
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To: ILS21R
If they say Lanza was wearing a bulletproof vest early on, then he was wearing a bulletproof vest.

Really. The same source also said that Mrs Lanza was the kindergarten teacher there. Should we go with that too???

238 posted on 01/17/2013 1:53:23 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: ILS21R

Ah, so you think Lanza didn’t kill those kids? Now, I getcha.


239 posted on 01/17/2013 1:55:19 PM PST by FreedomForce (Living in the Age of American Soft Despotism)
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To: ILS21R
But I’ll go with the initial report, before they could change the narrative.

So then you're going with the initial report that Ryan not Adam was the shooter at the school. Okay --

240 posted on 01/17/2013 1:56:35 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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