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1 posted on 01/16/2013 5:53:00 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

No matter what happens, the Dems will not be blamed for anything. Remember, Democrats are always given credit (for anything) and the Republicans are always blamed (for everything). Got it?


2 posted on 01/16/2013 5:58:54 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: neverdem

CNN is so funny.

I guess Reid told them to make his minions look important.


3 posted on 01/16/2013 6:01:57 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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Senate Democratic leaders know that House Republicans will not act on anything until the Senate does

This assumes that the House Republicans will just roll over on gun control.

4 posted on 01/16/2013 6:05:22 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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The fact that this is even a topic of discussion amongst politicians and the media annoys the crap out of me and a lot of other folks.

If they persist, there may be some fairly rapid annoyance manifestations.

5 posted on 01/16/2013 6:07:03 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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Democrats in the United States Senate up for election in 2014:
Alaska - Mark Begich
Arkansas - Mark Pryor
Colorado - Mark Udall
Delaware - Chris Coons
Hawaii (special) - Brian Schatz
Illinois - Richard Durbin
Iowa - Tom Harkin
Louisiana - Mary Landrieu
Massachusetts - John Kerry
Michigan - Carl Levin
Minnesota - Al Franken
Montana - Max Baucus
New Hampshire - Jeanne Shaheen
New Jersey - Frank Lautenberg
New Mexico - Tom Udall
North Carolina - Kay Hagan
Oregon - Jeff Merkley
Rhode Island - Jack Reed
South Dakota - Tim Johnson
Virginia - Mark Warner
West Virginia - Jay Rockefeller


9 posted on 01/16/2013 6:15:07 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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Ummm...
I needs to get out of the house first.


10 posted on 01/16/2013 6:16:34 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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Senate Democratic leaders know that House Republicans will not act on anything until the Senate does.

Sure, that makes sense. Why should the House bust their ass and pass a bill to the Senate if the Senate's just gonna sit on it?

Let the Senate get off their ass first.

12 posted on 01/16/2013 6:19:35 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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“Senate Democrats hold key to passage of gun legislation.”

And free men hold the key to it’s repeal if passed.


14 posted on 01/16/2013 6:21:28 PM PST by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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Funny, the FR ad above that I see is Reagan a Republican famous for supporting gun bans.


15 posted on 01/16/2013 6:22:05 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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I don't care what they do.

The 2nd Amendment STANDS.

16 posted on 01/16/2013 6:24:19 PM PST by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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No matter how many times they repeat the talking points that somehow disarming the American public is “REASONABLE”, we have to counter that it really ISN’T.


19 posted on 01/16/2013 6:40:00 PM PST by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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A couple of observations on today’s events and their impact on political action:

The President punted. If you read the official releases of what Obama will do, as opposed to what the press is reporting, you will see that today was a publicity stunt. He is making several proclamations, issuing some instructions to federal agencies, and telling Congress to act on all the hard stuff. No assault weapon ban, no high cap magazine ban, no end to private gun sales including gun shows. He put these in the too hard box and told Congress to handle. That’s what the law requires, of course, but when did he ever pay attention to the law. He’s done this because he knows his position is weak. The real polling, not the nonsense that the press is touting, tells him that this is a losing issue so he is trying to fool his base by making a bunch of noise, but he won’t take action. Not because he doesn’t want to, but because he realizes that the issue will hurt his cause.

If he knows it’s a losing issue then you can bet that Congress does as well. The Senate is not going to touch this either. They will honk and cough and strut around, but nothing will happen. Those poor folks in New York State and other liberal bastions will suffer, but the federal government won’t do much on the surface.

The biggest danger from the Feds is going to be in information gathering and sharing and in an attempt to expand the restrictions on gun ownership to a wide range of mental issues. Everyone can be proclaimed crazy, so that is a very real threat and will have to be watched carefully. You could conceivably go to the doctor for a flu shot and end up being declared a threat to society for some mental condition.

If Obama thought that he could have gotten away with it, he would have done much more today. The fact that he didn’t is telling.


21 posted on 01/16/2013 6:53:18 PM PST by centurion316
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....Obamacare also depended heavily on Democrat votes....


22 posted on 01/16/2013 6:53:35 PM PST by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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Maybe Congressman Darrell Issa out to hold his next press conference about Fast and Furious with some widows and orphans of the hundreds of Mexican victims as backdrop. That would be very fitting.


24 posted on 01/16/2013 6:58:59 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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“Senate Democratic leadership sources tell CNN that passing any new legislation will be extremely difficult because more than a dozen vulnerable Democrats....”

Dana, Ima let ya finish, but that is an outright admission that this is about political power, not anyone’s protection.

And you are either to stupid to see it, or most likely, think we are.


25 posted on 01/16/2013 7:11:24 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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So once again the heretofore spineless, gutless Republicans have the opportunity to stand up and boldly declare that they are compelled to follow the example of our President when forced to register his vote and now must vote PRESENT. Then they must do what no politician, but every statesman realizes and sit the crap down and shut the hell up. But instead we will get equivocation and rationalization as to why we must support the bills before Congress. Makes me want to hurl........again.
26 posted on 01/16/2013 7:37:15 PM PST by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction. Ready?)
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There’s enough RINOs in the Senate to allow a few vulnerable Donkeys to make a “safe” vote. In the House, there are enough RINOS to go with the fairly solid Donkeys to pass the bill. That’s what happened with the “cliff” bill. A majority of Republican reps voted NO, but it passed with a large majority of Donkeys voting for it, and enough RINOS to pass.


28 posted on 01/16/2013 8:50:54 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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There’s enough RINOs in the Senate to allow a few vulnerable Donkeys to make a “safe” vote. In the House, there are enough RINOS to go with the fairly solid Donkeys to pass the bill. That’s what happened with the “cliff” bill. A majority of Republican reps voted NO, but it passed with a large majority of Donkeys voting for it, and enough RINOS to pass.


29 posted on 01/16/2013 8:51:14 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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Senate Democrats hold key to NOTHING.


30 posted on 01/16/2013 8:53:20 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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Does anybody seriously think the House will go for this? I don’t. Screw the rat senate.


31 posted on 01/16/2013 8:54:40 PM PST by Graybeard58
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