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Breaking Down Obama's 23 Executive Orders
Self | Jan. 16, 2013 | Sampleman

Posted on 01/16/2013 1:57:43 PM PST by SampleMan

The following is a list, provided by the White House, of executive actions President Obama plans to take to address gun violence.
- Followed by my observations on their relevance.

1. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system.
- Why aren’t they already doing this? And are you including illegal aliens, because something tells me you aren’t.

2. Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
- Must be talking about Federally mandated COBRA laws, that have made it a felony to do just that.

3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system.
- Has this really been a problem? Any high profile crimes where this was a factor?

4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks.
- Why aren’t they already doing this? Or do they mean to define all “bitter clingers” as dangerous? Again, I’m wondering about those illegal aliens, is the Fed finally going to make that information available to law enforcement?

5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun.
- And why would seized guns be returned, Oh yea, because the charge, arrest, etc. was invalid, or the person was found to be innocent. Again, has this been a problem?

6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.
- Private sellers? What does that mean? A private seller doesn’t go through an FFL dealer. What is being proposed here?

7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign.
- The NRA already does this. But I presume that the Federal gov. will define “responsible” as "not at all".

8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission).
- I’ve never seen a single story about a malfunctioning gun lock or safe. Is that really a problem?

9. Issue a Presidential Memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations.
- Once again, why aren’t they already doing this? And will this apply to Federal gun running, as in Fast and Furious?

10. Release a DOJ report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement.
- And again, why aren’t they already doing this? Will the owners get their stolen guns back?????

11. Nominate an ATF director.
-Nobody is running the ATF? Really? Well that explains a lot.

12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations.
- That would appear to be a state and local responsibility, but if the Federal Government has more money than it can currently spend without running into something like a debt ceiling, then well by all means, throw some money at the problem.

13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime.
- Why aren’t they already doing this? I’m guessing that there will be more of the former than the latter, in the form of harassing legal gun owners.

14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.
- Gun violence is a disease? Really? Let me guess, they will find that countries without personal rights have fewer firearm deaths, but they won’t mention the massively higher rates of rape, assault, and forced entry in those same countries.

15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies.
- Here are a couple of hints: don’t point the muzzle at anything you aren’t OK killing, and don’t leave guns where witless individuals will play with them.

16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.
- You mean the Affordable Care Act that has increased taxes and insurance rates? Well, I’m OK with MDs asking about guns and other weapons when it has a medical purpose, such as a patient with mental illness, just as long as the MD isn’t required to ask and patients are required to respond.

17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.
- If the Feds hadn’t prosecuted so many health care providers for just such actions, based on Federal COBRA laws, perhaps this would be a non-issue, as it was before COBRA laws.

18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers.
- Again, that would appear to be a state and local responsibility, but if the Federal Government has more money than it can currently spend without running into something like a debt ceiling, then well by all means, throw some money at the problem.

19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education.
- Great. I thought that is what the Feds did after Columbine and after 9-11. Isn’t that what all of the military equipment and training that is flowing from the Federal government to local PDs was all about?

20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover.
- Again, that would appear to be a state and local responsibility, but if the Federal Government has more money than it can currently spend without running into something like a debt ceiling, then well by all means, throw some money at the problem….Oh wait, that is an unfunded mandate isn’t it? Ah yes. You get the credit, and the states get the bill.

21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges.
- It would help if ACA (Obama Care) exchanges had any guidelines at all, but you have never found the time to tell the states exactly what the requirements are, which is why only a handful of states have even bothered setting these exchanges up.

22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations.
- I thought we were going to find out what was in Obamacare after it was passed. I guess “after” is still an open ended time frame.

23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health.
- Are “National Dialogues” anything like “Listening Tours” and “Town Hall Meetings”, if so, please don’t bother.


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To: SampleMan

“14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.”

The language is bass ackwards - gun violence has one cause - a personality type (fixed or of the moment) stupid and immoral enough to assualt someone with a gun, and many ways and means of “prevention”, not one (but “prevention” only in the sense of possibly lower the frequency).

There is NO way to absolutely prevent “gun violence”, as no system of identification will identify and locate every person who might resort to gun violence before they do; any more than you can idenfify every consumer of alcoholic beverages who will drive a vehicle while drunk and commit vehiclular homicide - before they do.

But Obama is playing to the ignorant masses who think that if Obama is not alone G-d, the whole federal government surely is.


41 posted on 01/16/2013 3:01:53 PM PST by Wuli (uire)
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To: Ancesthntr
[your doctor is] not a law enforcement official

Not so fast.

In 1998:

I'd like to think you're correct. But, I don't know how the law is worded and, technically, anyone acting with the authority of the federal government could be considered a "federal agent."

These are perilous times. Those who favor dismantling (rather than repealing) the Second Amendment would be wise to consider that, in doing so, they’re inviting similar unlawful erosion of our First and Fourth Amendment rights in the foreseeable future. If they think that can’t happen, they don’t know human nature, history, and why the Bill of Rights was ratified in the first place.

42 posted on 01/16/2013 3:04:47 PM PST by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson, 1824)
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To: Paladin2

“No, gov’t gun violence is “free”.”

I thought it was their “duty”.


43 posted on 01/16/2013 3:06:02 PM PST by duffee (In need of new tag line)
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To: SampleMan

# 5. ‘seize’ would include taking via ‘search incidence to arrest’.

IE: you get stopped as a ‘person of interest’ since your car matches the suspect’s description,they see you have a gun and take it while checking you out. it’s not unheard of for that return process to take foreever in certain cities.

now they have an excust to keep it longer to run checks.


44 posted on 01/16/2013 3:06:38 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: ExTxMarine

The idea of background and mental health checks to vote send Dems into shock.


45 posted on 01/16/2013 3:08:34 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: hal ogen
Keep a magic marker in your pocket, and if you suddenly 'feel an urge' to scrawl FUBO & Molon Labe on something,
well...just consider it as 'getting the message out there'!
46 posted on 01/16/2013 3:13:17 PM PST by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: duffee

To protect themselves and to be served first.


47 posted on 01/16/2013 3:13:29 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: hal ogen

pleasantly surprised, but shouldnt be I guess, he did exactly zero, zilch, nada. all fluff for the moron voter, nothing more.

Buy lead futures.


48 posted on 01/16/2013 3:14:00 PM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: DBrow

Mumbo jumbo


49 posted on 01/16/2013 3:14:41 PM PST by Postnbeam (Time is not on our side.)
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To: Graybeard58
By the way, is there any law on the books that says I even have to own gun locks or a gun safe? I don’t own any such items. My gun is worthless in a safe. It’s doing quite well on the night stand by my bed, it’s been there for several years now and still hasn’t shot anybody.

In some states, you are required to have a gun lock with you when you take a newly purchased firearm home. That doesn't mean you have to use the silly thing if it does not fit with your household situation, but you have to own (or borrow) it.

50 posted on 01/16/2013 3:15:02 PM PST by Pollster1
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To: newgeezer
Don't talk to the PoPos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

51 posted on 01/16/2013 3:16:07 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: SampleMan

Great summary. Interesting that none of Obama’s EA would have prevented any of these massacres. Of course the MSM and obama are too afraid to take on the mental health establishment. But that is where action is needed.


52 posted on 01/16/2013 3:21:34 PM PST by KingofZion
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To: SampleMan
0bama's Child-Like EOs on Gun Control


53 posted on 01/16/2013 3:29:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: DBrow

declare gun ownership (more than 2 is ‘hoarding’ an’aresenal’) a disease and then you can involve doctors and shrinks.

#6 is just saying that ALL sales or transfers will HAVE to go through a dealer and NICS check. that will involve more $ , more bureaucrats,longer waits.


54 posted on 01/16/2013 3:31:12 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: SampleMan

Look at #1, #2 and #16.

Taken together, it is the start of a registration scheme that starts in your doctor’s office.

Of course, many of us will refuse to answer, however, can you guarantee your husband/wife or children or anyone else living in your house will not answer?!

While you can discuss this with your wife and older children, you cannot control everyone.

Younger kids may slip with the information. Wives or husbands can get influenced by friends.

Have a fight with your spouse just before a doctor visit and some scorned people will try to hurt you by telling all about your collection.


55 posted on 01/16/2013 3:52:57 PM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; Zakeet; Tennessee Nana; aMorePerfectUnion; Godzilla; fishtank; metmom; ..

Gun ping.


56 posted on 01/16/2013 3:53:00 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Mormonism is about which clique you get to be part of in the hereafter!)
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To: All

They control the debate by only talking about the negative results of (some) gun ownership. We need to be louder about the positive aspects of firearms... and of so-called ‘high capacity’ magazines. It will be disastrous if we let them control the argument.


57 posted on 01/16/2013 3:57:53 PM PST by 1_Of_We
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A quote allegedly by Obama senior adviser Valerie Jarrett has been spreading like wildfire online lately: “After we win this election, it’s our turn. Payback time. Everyone not with us is against us, and they better be ready, because we don’t forget. The ones who helped us will be rewarded; the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve.

There is going to be hell to pay. Congress won’t be a problem for us this time. No election to worry about after this is over, and we have two judges ready to go.”

Is This What Obama Meant by Revenge?


58 posted on 01/16/2013 4:10:07 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (Mormonism is about which clique you get to be part of in the hereafter!)
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To: SampleMan
As I noted to a friend this afternoon, were I a liberal gun grabber I'm be upset by this effort. Other than wasting $500 million there's nothing here, and most of the "efforts" related to mental health will be opposed by the left.

The legislative effort is a more serious problem, one I suspect will fail though I'd feel better with better House leadership. I'm thinking Reid would like to get reelected in 4 years, so I doubt he'll be on the cutting edge of anything.

59 posted on 01/16/2013 4:11:17 PM PST by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: 1_Of_We
We need to be a lot more than louder. We need a complete paradigm shift on the way we approach this.

Here is my method, which they cannot defend against.

STICK TO YOUR GUNS

60 posted on 01/16/2013 4:12:44 PM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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