Posted on 01/14/2013 3:25:07 AM PST by Kaslin
Ironic that LBJ’s attempt to end poverty may end up being the reason for a coming level of poverty never before seen in this country.
These guys thought that sometime around 2000, the US might face some enormous crisis -- I don't know, maybe some big terrorist attack in a major US city -- and that this traumatic event would usher in a generation of heroes who would transform this country and achieve miraculous things.
But sometimes things don't go as one might hope.
Nonagenarian. The man is 90 years old, quit calling him names.
Secession II
We’ve already run out of other people’s money. Now they are simply printing up new money. Next, we’ll have a monetary collapse. I’m not really seeing an upside here.
The heroes are arising,but they are either generally met by disdain or worse by the powers that be.Look at what they did to Sarah Palin, Allen West Herman Cain, or the tea Party in general.
Sulla.
Demos has had its chance.
And this is the only thinig which will "wind down" the entitlement state. Until then the government will continue to spend more and more of the imaginary capital it creates by sheer fiat.
That's because they came from separate cultures in different parts of England, as described more fully in the later-referenced Albion's Seed.
I believe many elected Republicans are worse than RINO's - they are actually Democrats a la Bloomberg. We've been duped.
Perhaps...but those good folks and others like them are still around. The time will come. I am willing, and I aim to be part of it. Sometimes you can’t fix stupid...until stupid has run out of all other options.
For me, I will also be plugging in to the Heritage Foundation. My hope is that Jim DeMint and others like him can develop effective strategy for taking on the Left. Currently, we play whack a mole with these people..many on the “R” side. That has to change.
I don’t understand the reasoning here. The entitlement state will wind down after monetary collapse? Why? Wasn’t the Cloward-Piven strategy to do just that in order to expand the Welfare State? Won’t capitalism be blamed, as always? Didn’t Germany go Nazi and Russia remain in bondage after hyperinflation and the idiotic deliberate attempt to destroy currency, respectively?
Why should I expect less government following collapse? What, there has to be an economy to feed on for there to be Leviathan? We have no concept of how much there is for the state to eat. There were governments in the previous century which literally murdered the productive classes and slithered on for decades.
“I don’t understand the reasoning here. The entitlement state will wind down after monetary collapse? Why? Wasn’t the Cloward-Piven strategy to do just that in order to expand the Welfare State?”
“Why should I expect less government following collapse?”
Maybe terminology is the issue. As you stated, history has shown that once their strategy succeeds, the welfare state will consume its own, until just enough useful idiots are left to provide for not government, but a dictator.
Well. That’s a buzzkill.
I do agree with your reasoning. As long as they have a collaborating mainstream propaganda machine, the zombies will continue to vote these career politicians into power.
The Cloward-Piven strategy is not full proof. It is a gamble for the communists who believe once the system completely breaks down a communist regime will “naturally” follow. That might not happen....
It will collaspe, expect it.
Communism tried that, and lasted all of a year. South Africa, btw, something like 90+ percent of all the productive land and interest-bearing economy is still possessed by white people.
It simply, cannot, be done.
Beat me to it.
Secula, a period of about 80 years amounting to a long lifetime within which there is a High, an Awakening, an Unraveling and then a Crisis. Usually the Crisis is preceded by an Economic Crisis. Each of the four turnings last about 20 years and come in the order listed. There are usually only distinct boundaries at the culmination of the Crisis stage when war is declared and ended.
And so it has been through the history of this nation and its forebear’s since the 1400’s.
Wars go on through the Secula but not all wars are Crisis. WWI was not a crisis to the U.S. it had gone on a long time before we gave it our 20 months, Korea, Vietnam etc. were punctuation marks in the Awakening and ushered the Unraveling.
There are generational changes corresponding to the Turnings. Prophet, Nomad, Hero and Artist. Artists are being born now. Boomers are Prophets. Each generation has consistent characteristics that are linked to those who raised them and the time they were raised of course.
Because the Secula is equal to a long life most of us will live to see all four parts of the cycle but from different perspectives of course.
You need not buy into all this book has to say but it is very thought provoking. For an intro the authors maintain a web site.
Nothing happens by chance. There is a pattern.
I was going to point out here that some Freeper had pointed me to "The Fourth Turning" in response to my own little "70 year itch" theory that every 70 years (give or take) something big happens that changes the direction. Perhaps it was you. Anyway, I read it. Interesting stuff, they say 80 years. If you look at their website forums though you'll find that most of the posters there are dreaming of the day a communist dictator finally rises and sets this country on the right footing, so they are probably quite pleased with the way things are going.
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