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Let me see if I understand this. We were obligated to allow ourselves to be disarmed by a government of anti-American radical jihadists for fear of offending them while our people in harm's way were essentially rendered defenseless with our only option being to trust to the security of these same armed anti-American radical jihadists?

We're talking TREASON BIG TIME with the the blood of the death of four Americans on the hands of the Imam Obama and his Islam loving minions who put the self-esteem of the aformentioned radical jihadists as their highest priority over the lives of Americans which the Obamunists couldn't care less about!

The Obama Adminstration told Americans who wanted to rescue their countrymen under attack by these same radical jihadists to stand down! Accordingly, the TREASONOUS Obama Administration must be held directly responsible for their unnecessary deaths!

1 posted on 01/13/2013 5:01:54 AM PST by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen; annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; ..
Cannot say it better than IbJensen, so I'm not gonna try.

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Benghazi Index

2 posted on 01/13/2013 5:11:27 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: IbJensen

An example of a “Gun Free Zone” and it’s consequences.


6 posted on 01/13/2013 5:40:23 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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According to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations (1963), host countries are obligated to protect and defend the embassies of other nations within their country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Convention_on_Consular_Relations

If they fail to do so, the grounds of the embassy (but not necessarily all properties owned by the guest nation government) are regarded as the sovereign territory of the guest nation, which they may protect and defend if the host government is unable or unwilling to carry out its obligations.

By a much older diplomatic treaty, the only guest nation personnel permitted to be organic armed guards on embassy grounds must be uniformed “marines”, designated as such even if the guest country does not have a navy. However, they *may* hire additional armed guards, under host nation rules, from the host country.

Now, this being said, the US embassy *annex* is Libya was not part of embassy grounds, and was thus not sovereign US territory. Nor was its defense required by the Libyan government.

However, what can be learned from this incident is that US Marines stationed in embassies in nations “at risk” for attack against our embassy, should *not* be limited in any way to being “passive” defenders of the embassy.

Because of terrorist threats, many of our embassies are now highly defensible fortifications. If the Marine detachments, a fire team or squad, were equipped with crew served weapons, they could readily hold a mob of thousands at bay, killing enormous numbers of them as soon as they set foot on embassy grounds.

For example, after the fall of the Shah of Iran, the Marines had been able to do so, they could have taken out the “students” (in reality government agents), who captured our embassy and held our diplomats hostage. For the Iranian government to penetrate our embassy would have required the use of military heavy weapons, to include tanks, artillery, and aircraft.

So none of this nonsense about “students”, and it would have been an unambiguous act of war.

As it was, the most the US Marines were permitted to do, they did, such as trying to secure doors with coat hangars. Which is pathetic, as had they been armed with proper weapons, the “mob” would have had to crawl over a pile of their dead comrades just to get into the embassy grounds.


7 posted on 01/13/2013 5:41:13 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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Agreed, it wasn’t “libyan” policies that disarmed our
people but the policy of Obama’s state department that
feared to exert itself.

OBAMA’S FAULT.

NO OTHER, Well, ok, Hillary, and how is Hillary anyway...
Haven’t seen much of her lately...


8 posted on 01/13/2013 5:57:49 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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We're talking TREASON BIG TIME...

TREASON...in real-time, pre-meditated, continuous, un-questioned, un-checked, ongoing...

9 posted on 01/13/2013 5:58:23 AM PST by PGalt
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To: IbJensen
Thanks you for posting this article.

It is amazing how Republicans let Obama and Hillary get away with this. All Romney could come up with on the Benghazi issue is arguing when Obama first called it terrorism.

I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Obama wants to disarm all Americans. Anyone who says differently about Obama, can look up what his Attorney General, Eric Holder, said that all gun owners should cower in shame.

10 posted on 01/13/2013 6:15:59 AM PST by FR_addict
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