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Sweeping new gun laws proposed by influential liberal think tank (Center for American Progress)
Washington Post ^
| January 12, 2013
| Philip Rucker
Posted on 01/12/2013 7:03:20 PM PST by Seizethecarp
The Center for American Progress is recommending 13 new gun policies to the White House some of them executive actions that would not require the approval of Congress in what amounts to the progressive communitys wish list.
CAPs recommendations, presented Friday to White House officials and detailed in an 11-page report obtained by The Washington Post, establish a benchmark for what many in Obamas liberal base are urging him to do after last months massacre at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn.
CAPs proposals which include requiring universal background checks, banning military-grade assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines, and modernizing data systems to track gun sales and enforce existing laws are all but certain to face stiff opposition from the National Rifle Association and its many allies in Congress.
On Monday, Tanden will moderate a public discussion with three Democrats who have played leading roles in the gun debate: Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who during the Clinton administration helped get the 1994 assault-weapons ban passed; Sen. Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.), who helped write that bill as a House member; and Rep. Mike Thompson (Calif.), who chairs the House Gun Violence Prevention Task Force.
One of CAPs suggestions to toughen federal regulation of gun sales is to make the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which is currently an agency within the Department of Justice, a unit of the FBI. CAP says absorbing the ATF into the FBI would better empower the ATF to combat gun crime and illegal trafficking.
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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; bloodoftyrants; cap; chuckschumer; democrats; guncontrol; liberalfascism; liberalism; liberals; obama; progressives; rahnemanuel; rapeofliberty; secondamendment; soros; soroscap; tyranny; waronliberty; wewillnotcomply; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: SaraJohnson
I would love to believe that. But I don’t think many of us do. Once perhaps, but no more. They have given us plenty of reasons to think the worst.
To: JRandomFreeper
If I am forced to live in a country that officially thinks Obama is a good president, guns are bad, gay marriage is fabulous and principle does not matter, then I do not see why giant robots in Japanese schoolgirl uniforms would cause an eye to bat.
To: Norm Lenhart
LOL! and then sad... Where 'conservatives' accept pro-abortion candidates to 'win one for the team'. Yeah.. No one will bat an eye, except I couldn't trim the wild nose hairs and beard and 'stache while looking in the mirror if I supported someone that was ok with killing babies.
I'm out for the early AM at least until time to scare the E2 awake to play reville. Long day.
/johnny
To: 2ndDivisionVet
OF interest to me, watching from a distance, is to see how they play this out. I think they will be saying they have no intention to deny you a constitutional right to own or buy a gun but
a) They will want more regulation and records kept.
b) They will limit what sort of weapon you can own.
Look to what happened in Australia. People think we cannot own guns here - that is not true. We are very limited in what guns we can own (i.e nothing automatic) and, how we store them i.e. gun safes must be used and ammo kept in a different place than the gun(s). Other rules also apply.
This is what I believe Holder and Obama are looking at. The spirit of your constitution, I believe, would not limit the type or size of gun or put any other regulation on it. This lot might be looking at a reinterpretation of the the law- allowing you certain guns but not others and weighing you down with draconian rules associated with gun ownership.
Mel
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posted on
01/13/2013 2:07:46 AM PST
by
melsec
(Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
To: Seizethecarp
“FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS”... OR THEIR’S.
LLS
45
posted on
01/13/2013 4:42:06 AM PST
by
LibLieSlayer
(FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
To: Seizethecarp
Let subjugate them to OUR end game, DUST!
"COMPROMISE" is
a DIRTY word!
People who study the Bible know that
COMPROMISE almost always leads to destruction.
It's time to mock the "Gun Control" Zombies!
"Gun Control" is
a firm grip, steady breathing, accurate aim (developed by lots of practice), and a slow trigger pull.
The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
We need to learn
from the Swiss and implement their
"gun control measures" here in the United States right now, today!
These laws are the ones we should shove into the
"2nd Amendment Haters" faces.
" Today, military service for Swiss males is universal. At about age 20, every Swiss male goes through 118 consecutive days of recruit training in the Rekrutenschule. ...
Even before required training begins, young men and women may take optional courses with the Swiss army's M57 assault rifle.
They keep that gun at home for three months and receive six half-day training sessions.
From age 21 to 32, a Swiss man serves as a "frontline" troop in the Auszug, and devotes three weeks a year (in eight of the 12 years) to continued training.
From age 33 to 42, he serves in the Landwehr (like America's National Guard); every few years, he reports for two-week training periods.
Finally, from ages 43, to 50, he serves in the Landsturm; in this period, he only spends 13 days total in "home guard courses."
Over a soldier's career he also spends scattered days on mandatory equipment inspections and required target practice.
Thus, in a 30-year mandatory military career, a Swiss man only spends about one year in direct military service.
Following discharge from the regular army, men serve on reserve status until age 50 (55 for officers).
By the Federal Constitution of 1874, military servicemen are given their first equipment, clothing and arms.
After the first training period, conscripts must keep gun, ammunition and equipment an ihrem Wohnort ("in their homes") until the end of their term of service.
Today, enlisted men are issued M57 AUTOMATIC assault rifles and officers are given pistol.
Each reservist is issued 24 rounds of ammunition in sealed packs for emergency use.(Contrary to Handgun Control's claim that "all ammunition must be accounted for," the emergency ammunition is the only ammo that requires accounting.)
After discharge from service, the man is given a bolt rifle free from registration or obligation.
Starting in the 1994, the government will GIVE ex-reservists assault rifles. Officers carry pistols rather than rifles and are given their pistols the end of their service.
When the government adopts a new infantry rifle, it sells the old ones to the public.
Reservists are encouraged to buy MILITARY ammunition(7.5 and 5.6mm-5.56 mm in other countries-for rifles and 9 and 7.65 mm Luger for pistols)
which is sold AT COST by the government, for target practice .
Non-military ammunition for long-gun hunting and .22 Long Rifle (LR) ammo are not subsidised, but are subiect to NO sales controls.
Non-military non-hunting ammunition more powerful than .22 LR (such as .38 Spl.) is registered at the time of sale.
Swiss military ammo must be registered IF bought at a private store, BUT NEED NOT BE REGISTERED IF bought at a range.
The nation's 3,000 shooting ranges sell the overwhelming majority of ammunition.
Technically, ammunition bought at the range must be used at the range, but the rule is barely known and almost never obeyed.
The army SELLS a variety of machine guns, submachine guns, anti-tank weapons, anti-aircraft guns, howitzers and cannons.
Purchasers of these weapons require an EASILY OBTAINED cantonal license, and the weapons are registered.
In a nation of six million people, there are at least two million guns, including 600,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC assault rifles, half a million pistols, and numerous machine guns.
Virtually every home has a gun.
Besides SUBSIDIZED military surplus, the Swiss can buy other firearms easily too.
While long guns require NO special purchase procedures, handguns are sold only to those with a Waffenerwerbsschien (purchase certificate) issued by a cantonal authority.
A certificate is issued to every applicant over 18 who is not a criminal or mentally infirm.
There are NO restrictions on the carrying of long guns.
About half the cantons have strict permit procedures for carrying handguns, and the other half have NO rules at all.
There is NO discernible difference in the crime rate between the cantons as a result of the different policies.
Thanks to a lawsuit brought by the Swiss gun lobby, semi-automatic rifles require NO PURCHASE PERMIT and are NOT registered by the government.
Thus, the ONLY long guns registered by the government are FULL AUTOMATICS."
The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
Let's adopt THEIR LAWS !
Remember:
The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they TRY to take it.
Read
Second Amendment: Its Not About Hunting, IT'S ABOUT TYRANNY .
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posted on
01/13/2013 4:44:14 AM PST
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: Seizethecarp
That’s ripe,the ATf,the same agency that was lying to those dastardly gun dealers telling them It was fine to sellthousands of fully automatic rifles to the most barbaric drug cartels in mexico,,where hundreds of men women and children were slaughtered. those bastards should be in Leavenworth with Obama and Biden and Holder
To: Red in Blue PA
In 1800 a Jefferson supporter for President,Reverend John Leland was so happy after his election he had his flock celebrate the event by producing the largest cheese the world had ever seen.Every man and woman who owned a cow was to give all the milk on a certain day,only no federal cow was to give a drop.
When the cheese dried it weighed 1600 pounds,it took three weeks to drive it to Washington,all the country had heard of the big cheese and came out to to look at it as it drove along.
The massive cheese had Jefferson’s favorite motto etched into it “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God”.
Interestingly Lelands visit to the White House occurs on Jan.1,1802,the same day Jefferson wrote the letter to Lelands fellow Baptists assuring them that because of “separation of church and state”they had nothing to fear fRom government limiting their religious practices or expressions.
To: Seizethecarp
Soros' CAP reveals gun-grabbing agenda including plan to fold ATF into the FBI! Heck - wait until they decide to fold every agency into the IRS - everyone is guilty with no possibility of proving innocence because if such an "innocence loophole" can be found, a new law will be put in place to negate it. Punishment varies from having all your accumulated wealth stolen up to death.
49
posted on
01/13/2013 8:13:11 AM PST
by
trebb
(Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
To: Norm Lenhart; JRandomFreeper
then I do not see why giant robots in Japanese schoolgirl uniforms would cause an eye to bat.Me either.
50
posted on
01/13/2013 9:23:07 AM PST
by
UCANSEE2
( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
To: Seizethecarp
This think tank was tasked with the issue of how to get the guns brought in without using human resources.
You won’t be able to renew your license, buy gas or even food or to cash a SS check unless you have been part of an intense scrutiny that any gun you may have had since you werre born isn’t still in your possession plus if any weapon is found on your property the Feds will confiscate everything you own, shoot your dog, re-educate your family and put you in a labor camp.
The think tank wants no human targets out there, no FBI traps set up, no reverse Wacos where just when the feds are watching a compound turn into a blazing inferno they are themselves wiped out by hidden snipers.
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posted on
01/13/2013 9:29:40 AM PST
by
Eye of Unk
(AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
To: UCANSEE2; Norm Lenhart; JRandomFreeper
...then I do not see why giant robots in Japanese schoolgirl uniforms would cause an eye to bat.You guys are disturbed! \
52
posted on
01/13/2013 9:53:29 AM PST
by
WVKayaker
("the sacrifice of One birthed opportunity for new life and real HOPE for all"-Sarah Palin 12/17/12)
To: Seizethecarp
53
posted on
01/13/2013 3:37:50 PM PST
by
Carriage Hill
(AR-15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-defense is the First Human Right.)
To: FlyingEagle
The only difference so far, is that the pile of skulls here in the US is smaller than the one in Cambodia. Inside of the next 4yrs of 0scumbag, that’ll even-out, if not surpass Cambodia.
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posted on
01/13/2013 3:42:34 PM PST
by
Carriage Hill
(AR-15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-defense is the First Human Right.)
To: WVKayaker
Say...you ah...wouldn’t happen to have her phone number would ya?
To: Eye of Unk
And that will go on how long before armed revolt?
Think it through to it’s logical conclusion.
To: UCANSEE2
Seems a lot more ‘normal’ than Republicans embracing amnesty, abortion and gun control dont’cha think?
To: Seizethecarp
Imho, the Center for American Progess knows that their personnel will be the first casualties of another American revolution.
5.56mm
58
posted on
01/13/2013 3:58:17 PM PST
by
M Kehoe
To: WVKayaker; Norm Lenhart
You guys are disturbed!Sadly, that's very true. But we like us. :)
/johnny
To: Eye of Unk
You wont be able to renew your license, buy gas or even food or to cash a SS checkI live alone, kids are grown and gone. I don't require a license to get by. I don't buy gas. I grow or kill a lot of my own food. I don't get SS money from the government.
I'm a free man. I can be killed, but I can't be tamed.
Not everyone is stuck in the mainstream lifestyle trap.
/johnny
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