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JCPenney stock plunges after bad holiday
New York Post ^ | 12 January 2013 | James Covert

Posted on 01/12/2013 5:36:33 AM PST by oh8eleven

"Penney’s sales at stores open at least a year plummeted more than 30 percent through most of the crucial holiday season, sources close to the company told The Post this week."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaycpenney; jcp; jcpenney; jcperverts; penny; retail
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To: Common Sense 101

You left out the obvious. Filling a clothing store with shapeless, downright ugly women’s clothing that looks like it is designed for the obese, is not the way to get the fairer sex to flock to your establishment. Particularly when you color that clothing in tones that make said women downright nauseous.


21 posted on 01/12/2013 7:08:51 AM PST by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Agree completely, though I don't believe that JCP is alone in the area of inane advertising layouts. As you have worked in the direct marketing field, you probably also noticed the unique size of the catalogs/mailing pieces; those were not cheap to produce.

As far as the color blocks, if memory serves those were intended to represent months of the year; the plan was to have light boxes throughout the stores to illuminate the store with the “color of the month”. Who knows what they were thinking there... apparently they believed that their customers were so stupid they could better keep track of months by color rather then by name. Given that Obama was reelected that may have been the only aspect of their marketing strategy they had right.

22 posted on 01/12/2013 7:14:17 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: austinaero

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23 posted on 01/12/2013 7:17:50 AM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: Common Sense 101
The hallmarks of a newbie refugee from general advertising or brand marketing to DM. I've also been involved heavily on the production and mailing end. No doubt the thought was to be “unique,” to “stand out” by using a weird press cutoff or page dimension. Truthfully, people are annoyed by odd formats, they don't stack neatly on the coffetable or in the magazine rack. The uniqueness that matters is contained within the pages. The pages themselves are background and secondary at best.

There is a reason certain formats have become standardized, and the USPS plays a role. They could be paying a very dear price for this futile effort to stand out, for an area in which standing out may not be received as a positive. I'd imagine they're blowing off a postal discount or two in so doing. I'd also imagine the incidence of mangled printed matter in the mailstream is higher, too. All for a very illusory benefit or none at all.

Back to the color block thing, there is a basic thought behind identifying selling periods that is time-tested, and that would be traditional seasonality. Tying your promotions to an event or holiday, studying your historic trends and sales metrics, and creating a compelling story with product that is timely and proven as far as desirability. It answers the question that goes through everybody’s head when opening the mailbox and seeing a catalog. Why are you sending me this, and why should I care? What's in it for me? This is true for e-mail blasts and splash pages also.

But no, traditional anything has been chucked out the window in favor of ... what?

24 posted on 01/12/2013 7:39:04 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
But no, traditional anything has been chucked out the window in favor of ... what?

From all outward appearances and their quarterly financial performance, it would appear the "efforts" were to see how quickly a small number of "marketing and retail geniuses" could drive a 100 year old retail company into bankruptcy.

25 posted on 01/12/2013 7:52:00 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Common Sense 101

Well, midmarket D&S is a tough place to be these days. They’re getting squeezed from below by “better” discount chains like Target and above them, the regional, traditional department stores know their turf far better as far as product and merchandising. They’re defending that turf aggressively.

Sears is sucking wind, too. JC Penney would be experiencing an existential challenge even without this bizarre, flailing attempt at Oprahfication. So, it’s not all the fault of the strategy, if such can be called strategy, but it couldn’t have come at a worse time.


26 posted on 01/12/2013 8:02:08 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Sgt_Schultze
by having a pricing policy of "always fair prices - no sales" Penny creates no sense of necessity in a customer of buying something today.
Actually. I liked that policy. But that's a moot point now that I won't step a foot into a JCP.
27 posted on 01/12/2013 8:04:54 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: austinaero
They don’t give a damn about this country so they can kiss my ass. I hope they go under tomorrow!
Tell us how you really feel :)
Semper Fi!
28 posted on 01/12/2013 8:07:17 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: austinaero
They don’t give a damn about this country so they can kiss my ass. I hope they go under tomorrow!

I'm with ya' on this.
I just need time to go spend that $25 gift card I got years ago, though.

I wonder when they recognize revenue from a gift card?

29 posted on 01/12/2013 8:10:06 AM PST by RightField (one of the obstreperous citizens insisting on incorrect thinking - C. Krauthamer)
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To: oh8eleven
To understand the mess at JCP, check out this video and transcript A Complete Guide To Bill Ackman's Total Trainwreck Of An Interview On CNBC

Apparently passing out "pins" isn't bringing the customers in. This guy demonstrates the "peter principle" in action.

30 posted on 01/12/2013 8:17:37 AM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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To: oh8eleven

Last time I walked into a Penney’s (at least a decade ago) they had Spanish & English signs for each department in big lettering.

So they’ve been pandering for quite some time.

Their clothing was always mediocre at best (their catalogs from the 70s are a hoot).

This latest mis-step probably has J.C. rolling in his grave.


31 posted on 01/12/2013 8:23:21 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: oh8eleven
It looks like their Queers 'Я' Us marketing strategy might not be working too well.


32 posted on 01/12/2013 8:26:40 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: HonkyTonkMan
When I was a little kid growing up on Lawn Guyland, I'd go shopping with my mom at the A&P.
One of the everlasting memories I have of those trips (other than the intoxicating aroma of freshly ground 8 O'Clock Coffee) is a sign over the manager's office: It's as simple as that.
33 posted on 01/12/2013 8:27:49 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Maybe adding a JCP line of petroleum jelly and AIDS remedies would help draw in their target demographic.


34 posted on 01/12/2013 8:35:36 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: Common Sense 101
Just a reminder of the ads that show how J.C. Penney is committed to sodomy and perversion:


35 posted on 01/12/2013 9:02:16 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: oh8eleven

I sure like that sign. My uncle worked for A&P for years in the 60s-70s.


36 posted on 01/12/2013 9:04:20 AM PST by HonkyTonkMan
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To: SoFloFreeper

Gheeze - no BARF alert?


37 posted on 01/12/2013 9:12:20 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Sales to gays increased 100%.


38 posted on 01/12/2013 9:38:06 AM PST by Terry Mross (People who hate me read my posts and get angry. Yet they can't look away. Brilliant, huh.)
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To: oh8eleven

GayCPenney - put some ice on it


39 posted on 01/12/2013 9:42:21 AM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: Terry Mross
Who would know? Did they take a poll at the cash registers? Was there a box to check off on the on-line order form?
Nothing like pi$$ing off 90% of your customers to pander to the 1.5%.
40 posted on 01/12/2013 9:43:41 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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