Posted on 01/12/2013 5:05:48 AM PST by IbJensen
They will. Adults having sex with children is the next item on their agenda. But they will get to polygamy before very long.
This is a well-written article.
“If preventing gays from “marrying” is so obviously unjust, why didn’t anyone, including leading liberals, think of it until relatively recently?”
Well, first they had to wait until it was “removed” from “The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders” as an aberrant paraphilia.
[you know, like pedophilia, necrophilia and zoophilia]
Because the "speed of thought" is slower than the speed of common sense.
Maybe it’s advanced so fast because people are stupider, or at least more ignorant. I cannot convince one young person who isn’t already wholly on my side that it has nothing to do with equality, or at least individual equality, or that “discriminating” between homo- and heterosexual couples isn’t naziesque. It always goes ne saying “Single gays are just like any other single person.” Then they say but they can’t get married, and I say, “They can marry whomever they want, so long as they’re the opposite sex.”
This will not stand in their minds. They say but gays don’t wanna marry people of the opposite sex. “So what?” I’ll try explaining the difference between status and contrast, the legitimate state interest in various forms of discrimination, etc. Nothing could be falser than the myth that everyone is equal before the law. Are men and women? Try walking into a ladies room, or harassing a male as opposed to female coworker. Are the young and old? Obviously not. Are murderers and nonmurderers. Now you’re comparing homosexuality to murder? “No, you ignoramus.”
It doesn’t work. If being gay isn’t bad, not necessarily good but unbad, then there must be gay “marriage.” It has so been decreed.
I always wondered, did they give a reason, or did it just poof away (pun intended)? Either they were wrong then or they’re wrong now. Have they said which?
Not that there are standards for what’s a disorder and what’s not. Everyone, or nearly so, wants to have sex occasionally. What makes for nymphomania or satyriasis? I think they say it comes down to whether or not it adversely affects your life. So if gayness suddenly becomes socially acceptable I guess it stops adversely affecting your life, and isn’t a disorder.
What kinda science is this?
Also, polygamy can result in the procreation of a child. By not allowing it, the state is discriminating against a child’s right to have his father married in the eyes of the law to his mother. Homosexual relations never result in procreation of another human being a/k/a a future taxpayer.
It got lobbied out.
“Maybe it’s advanced so fast because people are stupider, or at least more ignorant.”
Indeed. The leftists have done a great job of dumbing down a whole generation of people. Just take a look at how many voted for Obama. They’ll be paying for that decision for decades.
JMHO but I believe homosexualism and socialism are God’s judgment upon our nation much like ancient Israel demanding a king so they could be like other nations. They got Saul just like we got Obama.
It’s a good question. I have read a lot of pre-80’s sci-fi, mostly from the 50s and 60s. Never read anyone come up with ‘gay marriage,’ lots of polymorous relationship grouping, never ‘gay marriage.’
If you would have told someone in the 60’s that something called ‘gay marriage’ would be recognized by the state before polygamy, they would have thought you were wacked.
Of course for the state, the definition it uses to recognize the institution is simply whatever judges, pols, or 51% of the voting public think it should be at any one time. Many have been conditioned to think that marriage comes from and is defined by the state, as little pieces of paper. The paper denotes a contract between any parties the state approves, and brings strictures and benefits that can be broken and resumed as long as the state again approves. The state says ‘gay marriage’ is possible; therefore ‘gay marriage’ can exist and is possible for many.
Makes you wonder what the state will consider marriage in another 50 years. The answer is whatever judges, pols, or the majority think it should include in 50 years.
Freegards
I always thought the reason for homosexuals wanted gay marriage was due to the financial differences between single and married. However, I found out that they can’t even file married on the federal tax forms so that cannot be the reason. I do agree that they should be able to go to the hospital to say goodbye to their loved one...that was so stupid of the hospital to not allow that which was the beginning of the initial call for gay marriage. I 100 percent blame the hospitals that gay marriage is even a thought in our country! I could have cared less if they got visitation...why was that such a problem! Stupid hospitals ruined our culture by being selfish! I think if you guys think about it, I am 100 percent correct!
Years of propaganda on TV and in the movies. Spineless politicians who are deathly afraid of raging fang-toothed feminazis. Normal people afraid of being called bigoted. No surprise that it happened so fast.
My liberation ideological brother Philip, married his homosexual lover at my liberal father’s house, in Mexico, prior to Philip’s terminal years fighting for his life in St. Louis. HIV went to full blown Aids in a very few years.
HIV caused illnesses including severe neuropathy from the chemo cocktail, then in full blown AIDS,renal destruction and failure, advanced pneumonia, near complte optical nerve destruction and blindness, paralyzing brain lymphoma, and ultimately death by brain seizure from lymphoma—on January 9, 2006! Just past a seven year death anniversary for his short life, Age 42.
These are the fruits of an homosexual lifestyle and gay marriage. The liberal propagandists do not tell you about the illness. They do not tell you about the heart crushing multiple symptoms of Aids and the unhealthy personal relationships in a gay marriage, they do not tell you the “marriage equality “ means almost certain death by Aids.
In the end, a certain Rabbi in St Louis made a spiritual breakthrough with my brother Philip. Rabbi Randy explained to Philip that God had invited him to dance, to dance a final dance with God, of joy and acceptance of terminal illness and going into a final resting place under the protection of God. We rent our clothing, and then sang Ode to Joy at the funeral. It was a beautiful loving end, to a life cut short, by cultural relativism, abominable behavior, a false sacrament of man to man marriage, a preverted view of the validity of homosexual marriage, illicit dangerous disease ridden sex practices, many painful and blining illnesses, death from cancer caused by Aids, and ultimately, I pray, redemption and forgiveness, justicemwith mercy for Philip having chosen to dance finally with God in seeking eternal rest.
Fruits of gay marriage, in my family, are perversion, illness, blindness, death and sorrow. Thei is why I support Life, Freedom, and Marriage. This is my experience.
I miss Philip and love him: Philip, i love you, rest in Peace.
FE
I think several acts have driven this issue home. Calif. voted against gay marriage and San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsome preformed them anyway. This made an across the nation defiance arise.
Try finding TV that does not have the “usual” lifestyle by having a gay/gay couple actor. Personally this is why I watch very little TV as I cannot stand men talking and acting like women.
When I grew up I don’t care what I did on Saturday but I was expected to be in church on Sunday morning. Most parents are too tired from all day of Saturday sports to get the kids and themselves to church on Sunday.
Tweeting and texting and other self absorbed efforts turn one from everyone and everything else to self. I am very disappointed in several youth I know who didn’t have time to vote but cannot resist their iPhone telling them something boring someone else is doing that minute in their life.
Life IS different in a short time as we are too spoiled.
Homosexuals have never been denied the right to marry; what they have been denied (at least until now) is the right to change the definition of marriage.
Vita Sackville-West (same sex lover of Virginia Woolf) was married to Harold Nicolson, well-known as a homosexual. Woolf herself - an icon of female homooerotic literature - was married. Apparently both Sackville-West and Nicholson had active sex lives, mostly not with each other, yet maintained a continual relationship and raised at least one child, as I recall.
We as a culture are sadly reaping what we’ve been sowing for decades.
In the Communist Manifesto, Marx says that he not only wants to abolish private property, but also family, morals and religion. He’s very clear about it.
Marriage is about a billion things other than hospital visitation policy. I realize that comes up a lot, and presumably matters to those involved. But is it really driving gay “marriage”s whirlwind acceptance? Doubtful. You wouldn’t need the state to intrude to change that policy, and doing so is like killing a gnat with a cruise missle.
The same thing faces unmarried heterosexual couples, friends, and all relationships against which visitation policy discriminates. I see no compelling state interest in stepping in on their behalf, nor on behalf of gay couples. Methinks they stress this particular narrow issue, in addition to how it pulls on heartstrings, in order to highlight what it shares with actual marriage. That is, people who love eachother and vow to stay together ‘tip death. There’s also the sex, of course, but we don’t wanna hear about that.
But of course gay people staying together doesn’t interest the state. What do we care? That’s not why man-woman marriage has special status. If they want to stay together for life, that’s none of my business. If theyget sick if eachother after a week, let em split. Marriage is about love, support, sticktoitivness, for eachother. But that’s not why we bind them together. It certainly isn’t so they can commiserate over deathbeds.
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