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To: Tublecane

I always thought the reason for homosexuals wanted gay marriage was due to the financial differences between single and married. However, I found out that they can’t even file married on the federal tax forms so that cannot be the reason. I do agree that they should be able to go to the hospital to say goodbye to their loved one...that was so stupid of the hospital to not allow that which was the beginning of the initial call for gay marriage. I 100 percent blame the hospitals that gay marriage is even a thought in our country! I could have cared less if they got visitation...why was that such a problem! Stupid hospitals ruined our culture by being selfish! I think if you guys think about it, I am 100 percent correct!


13 posted on 01/12/2013 6:23:17 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: napscoordinator

Marriage is about a billion things other than hospital visitation policy. I realize that comes up a lot, and presumably matters to those involved. But is it really driving gay “marriage”s whirlwind acceptance? Doubtful. You wouldn’t need the state to intrude to change that policy, and doing so is like killing a gnat with a cruise missle.

The same thing faces unmarried heterosexual couples, friends, and all relationships against which visitation policy discriminates. I see no compelling state interest in stepping in on their behalf, nor on behalf of gay couples. Methinks they stress this particular narrow issue, in addition to how it pulls on heartstrings, in order to highlight what it shares with actual marriage. That is, people who love eachother and vow to stay together ‘tip death. There’s also the sex, of course, but we don’t wanna hear about that.

But of course gay people staying together doesn’t interest the state. What do we care? That’s not why man-woman marriage has special status. If they want to stay together for life, that’s none of my business. If theyget sick if eachother after a week, let em split. Marriage is about love, support, sticktoitivness, for eachother. But that’s not why we bind them together. It certainly isn’t so they can commiserate over deathbeds.


20 posted on 01/12/2013 6:59:13 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: napscoordinator

By the way, even if it plays on emotions, and even were it unanswerable, that is only one argument. I’ll eat my hat if that’s what pushed homosexuality into respectability. Certainly young people, among whom gay marriage is as natural as the idea that different races can marry, if not that men and women marry, aren’t concerned about death. That’s the last thing they think about, unless it’s the people they kill in first person shooter games or suicidal thoughts brought about by general boredom.

You ascribe entirely too much force to it.


22 posted on 01/12/2013 7:05:42 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: napscoordinator

“Stupid hospitals ruined our culture by being selfish!”

If that’s how you feel, you’re on the wrong site.

Naps, you are very wrong about this - sin recruits. Homosexuality is sin. Homosexuality demands acceptance - it demands that others bow and declare it decisively ‘not sin’. This is what gay marriage is all about - acceptance that sin is not sin, and they will continue until everyone who states otherwise is crushed by the state and the ‘consensus’ established.


23 posted on 01/12/2013 7:58:04 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: napscoordinator
I do agree that they should be able to go to the hospital to say goodbye to their loved one...that was so stupid of the hospital to not allow that which was the beginning of the initial call for gay marriage. I 100 percent blame the hospitals that gay marriage is even a thought in our country! I could have cared less if they got visitation...why was that such a problem! Stupid hospitals ruined our culture by being selfish! I think if you guys think about it, I am 100 percent correct!

No, you are 100 percent wrong.

It is entirely legitimate for hospitals to limit access and authority to those in a legally-recognized relationship. Not their place to pick and choose.

I agree that hospital visitation was the real beginning, but you can't hold "selfish hospitals" responsible.
26 posted on 01/13/2013 8:49:57 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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