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White House may consider funding for police in schools after Newtown
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Posted on 01/11/2013 8:30:28 AM PST by Sub-Driver

White House may consider funding for police in schools after Newtown

By Philip Rucker, Published: January 10

The Obama administration is considering funding many more police officers in public schools to secure campuses, a leading Democratic senator said, part of a broad gun violence agenda that is likely to include a ban on high-capacity ammunition clips and universal background checks.

The school safety initiative, one of several under consideration, would make federal dollars available to schools that want to hire police officers and install surveillance equipment, although it is not nearly as far-ranging as the National Rifle Association’s proposal for armed guards in every U.S. school.

The idea is gaining currency among some Democratic lawmakers, who see it as a potential area of common ground with Republicans who otherwise oppose stricter restrictions on firearms. Sen. Barbara Boxer, a liberal Democrat from California, said she presented the plan to Vice President Biden and that he was “very, very interested” and may include it in the policy recommendations he makes to President Obama.

“If a school district wants to have a community policing presence, I think it’s very important they have it,” Boxer said in an interview Thursday. “If they want uniformed officers, they can do it. If they want plainclothed officers, they can do it.”

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To: laweeks
Ya' know . . . I didn't think we needed anything more than the 2nd Amendment that we already have.

Yup but apparently the vast majority of Americans are panicked little bunnies who just know there's a crazed gunman hiding in the bushes outside all 100,000 schools in America.

I dated a Serbian woman who told me a story about the "peacekeepers" who were placed in schools there. Those same peacekeepers were the ones who loaded students on buses and sent them to where they wanted the resistant parents to go.

I think I prefer the staff to be armed if they wish and removing the signs that announce free fire zones.
21 posted on 01/11/2013 8:56:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sub-Driver
This is a state issue. The feds should stay out of this.
Oboma wants it to increase his dictatorial power. Nothing more. More government union employees, too, so it'll cost the working class three times as much as it should.

"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them."" -- Thomas Jefferson

22 posted on 01/11/2013 8:56:46 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Sub-Driver

In a country that regularly pisses through $$$1 Trillion a year and now wants to mint a fiat coin of platinum what’s $5 billion a year?

It’s for the children and only soulless bastuhds would object to protecting the children.


23 posted on 01/11/2013 9:00:27 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: cripplecreek
I think I prefer the staff to be armed if they wish and removing the signs that announce free fire zones.

Yeah, I teach at a private adult vocational school and we have one of those stupid signs that advertise that NO ONE IN THIS BUILDING IS ARMED, SO YOU CAN COME IN A SHOOT AT RANDOM, AND NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO STOP YOU . . . ya' know what I mean?

Would rather have a sign indicating that someone, somewhere in this building is armed and ready to use his weapon.

24 posted on 01/11/2013 9:02:14 AM PST by laweeks
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To: Sub-Driver
Instead of the TSA, they'll call this union the SSA.

Whaddya think? Doncha just love the idea of a claque of Federal goons with the weapons to keep you from getting to your kids?

Wayne LaPierre, you suck, much.

Had the NRA suggested arming existing school personnel and offered free training, I'd have been all with them. At least those people are somewhat accountable to parents. It would have been a great opportunity to dispel a boatload of propaganda from the Marxist left. Nope, ol' Wayne wants yet ANOTHER unfunded retirement for his retired cop constituency.

25 posted on 01/11/2013 9:02:14 AM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: laweeks
Would rather have a sign indicating that someone, somewhere in this building is armed and ready to use his weapon.

Do ya feel lucky punk? LOL
26 posted on 01/11/2013 9:07:53 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Not the job of the federal government.


27 posted on 01/11/2013 9:10:19 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Sub-Driver

,,,,, GEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZ ,,,, there goes our “SAFE” ,, “gun free zone” around our public school indoctrination centers .


28 posted on 01/11/2013 9:11:57 AM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism & Communism are the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: The Cajun

“Keep the Feds out of this, should be a state matter and even down to the county and school board level.”

I agree. Allow qualified volunteer citizens and/or qualified volunteer staff to perform security. Do not turn this important function over to the feds.


29 posted on 01/11/2013 9:14:42 AM PST by mouske
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To: Sub-Driver

Why federal?

Each county in each state can organize a posse of volunteers - just ask Sheriff Arapi how to do it.


30 posted on 01/11/2013 9:14:42 AM PST by donna (Pray for revival.)
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To: Hardastarboard
Seems like the County Sheriff could make school teachers Reserve Officers and arm them and train them for the least expensive way. Just one or two in each school should do it.
No uniforms required just a concealed carry.
31 posted on 01/11/2013 9:14:58 AM PST by castnet55
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32 posted on 01/11/2013 9:17:37 AM PST by RedMDer (Those that believe in gun free zones should wear GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS.)
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To: castnet55
Just one or two in each school should do it.

Do what? After all there are some 100,000 schools in this country and a tiny fraction of a percent have had shootings. That's like saying that all people should be tested for aids.
33 posted on 01/11/2013 9:20:35 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: laweeks

Any kind of protection for the schools has to be funded somehow, doesn’t it? If the govt does it, people will demand some form of over site, right?


34 posted on 01/11/2013 9:21:04 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: All

I’ll save everyone the suspense.

They won’t propose this. They will propose limits on gun-clip, high capacity ammunition, high capacity bullets, high capacity gun magazines, banana clips, bullet holders, AK11, AK44, AK15, AR47, AR11, oh and the evil dreaded “barrel shroud”.

These are all the misstatements I’ve heard and read the past few weeks most of which came from elected officials.


35 posted on 01/11/2013 9:21:16 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Falcon4.0

Good idea, keep it in the state


36 posted on 01/11/2013 9:22:54 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: Sub-Driver

The Feds MUST be kept out of this. It’s up to the states, counties, or municipalities to deal with this issue, either by keeping a policeman at the school, or allowing armed police to visit the school from time to time, or allowing certified teachers or guards to carry in the school, thus removing any crazy’s confidence that he will not encounter armed defenders.

We all know what happens when the federal government takes over paying the bills. More taxes, more control, less freedom.

And it points toward Obama’s dream: an armed government and disarmed citizens. Not to mention more public union supporters.


37 posted on 01/11/2013 9:23:53 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: laweeks
Would rather have a sign indicating that someone, somewhere in this building is armed and ready to use his weapon.

People keep talking about the actual event of shooting back at one of these nutjobs, etc. but what is overlooked repeatedly is the deterrent value of just having the possibility of armed 'resistors' in the schools. Your sign would be the way to go.

These shooters want to kill lots of people and make a 'statement', then they want to die on their own terms (suicide). They don't want to be wounded, taken alive to stand trial or end up in a mental ward. They want to die by their own hand, the ultimate 'control', and in their own minds as some sort of 'legend' with the publicity that attends such a reputation, even if it is the worst sort. Just having the possibility of someone who can shoot back and mess up their plans is a deterrent and they'll look for the softest target. As examples: Columbine - shooters committed suicide; Dunlane - shooter committed suicide; VT - shooter committed suicide when he heard the cops breaking in downstairs, Newtown - shooter committed suicide when he heard police sirens; recent mall event - shooter committed suicide when he saw a weapon present in the hands of a guy carrying concealed who didn't even have to fire a shot. Deterrence - it works (not always, but more often than "Gun Free Zone").

38 posted on 01/11/2013 9:24:28 AM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: rockinqsranch

It has to have some govt funding, doesn’t it?


39 posted on 01/11/2013 9:24:49 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: mouske
Allow qualified volunteer citizens and/or qualified volunteer staff to perform security. Do not turn this important function over to the feds.

And I totally agree with you.
Anytime the Feds get involved you have strings attached.
The first thing they would do is stop the *qualified* part you mentioned.
Anything the Feds touch goes to crap and becomes a joke, quickly.
I know the sheriff in my parish (county) would be happy to train volunteers and deputize them.

40 posted on 01/11/2013 9:25:12 AM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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