Posted on 01/08/2013 3:35:23 PM PST by Nachum
Vice President Joe Biden, who is heading up the President’s task force on gun control proposals, announced Tuesday that he would be meeting this week with the National Rifle Association, among other groups. And his timing is just a bit suspect; the day before meeting with the NRA, Biden will be meeting with gun control organizations and shooting victims. Presumably, his welcome for the NRA will be somewhat less hearty. The NRA, under heavy public pressure thanks to the White House’s bully tactics after the Sandy Hook massacre, said it would visit the White House
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There it is.
He killed his own mother and stole her guns. What would have stopped him from stealing the magazines too?
Everyone gets to keep their mags but the owners must lock them up when not in use.
And you enforce that...how?
Uh, no. My house...my rules and you and your fascists don't get a say in it.
The NRA,through its members, should tell him to kiss their asses.
The NRA,through its members, should tell him to kiss their asses. But I smell a sell out coming.
NRA needs to take the offense demand they repeal NFA 1934 and 1968 gun control and all silly states gun controls...
His "authority" NEVER was valid.
Supreme Court cases that cite “natural born Citizen” as one born on U.S. soil to citizen parents:
The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)
Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.
Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)
Ann Scott was born in South Carolina before the American revolution, and her father adhered to the American cause and remained and was at his death a citizen of South Carolina. There is no dispute that his daughter Ann, at the time of the Revolution and afterwards, remained in South Carolina until December, 1782. Whether she was of age during this time does not appear. If she was, then her birth and residence might be deemed to constitute her by election a citizen of South Carolina. If she was not of age, then she might well be deemed under the circumstances of this case to hold the citizenship of her father, for children born in a country, continuing while under age in the family of the father, partake of his national character as a citizen of that country. Her citizenship, then, being prima facie established, and indeed this is admitted in the pleadings, has it ever been lost, or was it lost before the death of her father, so that the estate in question was, upon the descent cast, incapable of vesting in her? Upon the facts stated, it appears to us that it was not lost and that she was capable of taking it at the time of the descent cast.
Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)
The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As society cannot perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their parents, and succeed to all their rights.' Again: 'I say, to be of the country, it is necessary to be born of a person who is a citizen; for if he be born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. . . .
Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)
The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.
United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)
At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.
Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939),
Was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that a child born in the United States to naturalized parents on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen and that the child's natural born citizenship is not lost if the child is taken to and raised in the country of the parents' origin, provided that upon attaining the age of majority, the child elects to retain U.S. citizenship "and to return to the United States to assume its duties." Not only did the court rule that she did not lose her native born Citizenship but it upheld the lower courts decision that she is a "natural born Citizen of the United States" because she was born in the USA to two naturalized U.S. Citizens.
But the Secretary of State, according to the allegation of the bill of complaint, had refused to issue a passport to Miss Elg 'solely on the ground that she had lost her native born American citizenship.' The court below, properly recognizing the existence of an actual controversy with the defendants [307 U.S. 325, 350] (Aetna Life Ins. Co. v. Haworth, 300 U.S. 227 , 57 S.Ct. 461, 108 A.L.R. 1000), declared Miss Elg 'to be a natural born citizen of the United States' (99 F.2d 414) and we think that the decree should include the Secretary of State as well as the other defendants. The decree in that sense would in no way interfere with the exercise of the Secretary's discretion with respect to the issue of a passport but would simply preclude the denial of a passport on the sole ground that Miss Elg had lost her American citizenship."
The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.
I understand your point but the powers that be recognize his position as valid. It is what it is.
And in this case, it will take an organized militia wherein all the members don't know each other (because weak militia members will expose the membership when pressed by the opposition).
This is a time for those who want to defend this country and its constitution to become strong and clever.
Even the old among us must get fit...and armed. And we need to stay isolated so those traitors (like Obama) cannot divide and conquer us.
Get a weapon...practice with that/those weapons...and get physically fit...get strong.
“There have been reports that the SH shooter didn’t expend his mags before swapping them out, that there were still rounds left in them. Possibly a lot of rounds.”
I heard that too but considering how accurate the media reports have been I dont put too much faith in them. We also dont know how many rounds he fired from each mag before changing. Could have been a few or many.
If I was Wayne, I’d just say FUBO.
Bring a list of questions about fast and furious you want to ask.
Tell him to fornicate with himself!
Der 0berFuhrer emperor Hussein 0bama SUMMONED the NRA? I would tell Hussein to Go F*** himself!
I got a better idea for NRA regarding 0dumb0’s invitation (or edict) to visit the WH. Rather than sending Wayne LaPierre, send Ted Nugent instead. Ted Nugent will not honey coat his remarks and will get his points across, especially to a incompetent moron like Bite-Me.
Only if you accept "it".
Any time zero asks one of his opponents to the WH for an intimidation session, the opponent should wear a recording device. The NRA should come in, be polite and vague, and just listen to the a-holes fume and strut their BS. Then, leak the idiotic comments to the conservative media.
Biden-Ban is all wee wee’d up about AR2
(American Revolution 2)
I wonder what that idiot Biden expects the NRA to do ?
Roll over and play dead?
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