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To: Kaslin

So much for active shooter response from every LEO.....

First patrolman on scene should have an EBR as a basic long gun and rush to the sound of gunfire where schools are concerned. That’s the way we trained after the columbine fiasco.

First responders not SWAT ! With regards to active shooter in a school your not trying to contain and capture the shooter your trying to SAVE children and drive the bastard away from those kids by engaging the shooter as fast as possible.

Each patrol vehicle should have a semi-auto M4gery w light and redi-mag w sling as basic issue long gun.

That said a school employee with a concealed sidearm could have distracted , disrupted his plan or killed the shooter before he conducted wholesale slaughter of children.

Left has no problem visiting a school with their own armed security detail yet do not want those children protected in same manner as they are....

Vote people.... You miss elections of ANY kind your eligible to participate in an don’t ...your part of the problem.

Vote these SOB’s back to the ice age.... Vote with your dollars between elections. Starve the beast.

My opinion ....


10 posted on 01/06/2013 8:50:43 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Squantos
I hate to say it Squantos, but the problem is that the culture of unionized "officer safety" rules these days effectively preclude a single police officer in her $75,000 cruiser, however heavily armed, from rushing into a firefight without backup. She'll "secure the perimeter" or some such until the SWAT team gets there. /unPC "sexist" rant

IMO, the only true hero of the Newtown disaster was the principal who threw her unarmed body at that creep, and died. Anybody with the guts to do that would have used a weapon. The real (and only affordable) answer is training and arming adults in the schools, hopefully with a psychological screening to cull the all-too-likely and all-too-common mentally unfit employees in public schools. Just think: A mass refusal by teachers to train could induce a few mass-layoffs! :-) I can dream, can't I?

12 posted on 01/06/2013 9:08:23 AM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Squantos

At my department we have stressed active shooter training for years. My last range training at the end of November was an active shooter scenario. We used to be taught to assemble the first four officers on scene into a small fireteam and make entry. We have changed that to first two officers on scene. If you arrive alone and you hear shooting, you are to make entry and attempt to locate the suspect and put him down. You only wait for the next officer if you arrive and no active shooting is occuring. At the last shooter training, it was arrive on scene solo, shooting is ongoing....I made entry and had to clear the building alone...certainly makes you think about how far some departments have come since Columbine....


38 posted on 01/06/2013 11:42:46 AM PST by Crapgame (What should be taught in our schools? American Exceptionalism, not cultural Marxism...)
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