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To: Winged Hussar

I’m not at all for arguing, conversing about, the ins and outs of what the Second Amendment is, what an Assault Rifle is, how big of a magazine does one need, and so on.

The number one argument is the Second Amendment, period. No hunting, no magazine size, no distinction - it says ARMS, period.

We stand on this or fall to tyranny and we’ll have to decide whether to drag the rest of the sane part of this country in on a conflagration just like our Founding Fathers had to do.

No polite ‘conversation’, no appeasement, no incrementalism - not one bit!


2 posted on 01/04/2013 11:53:29 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Eventually there will be confiscation.

How can we make the job of confiscator so unpalatable no one will take it?


3 posted on 01/04/2013 12:04:40 PM PST by Joe Bfstplk
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To: Gaffer

“I’m not at all for arguing, conversing about, the ins and outs of what the Second Amendment is...”

To not do so is a concession to our opposition and what they will come up with unopposed, they will use to persuade those in the middle to their benefit and our detriment.


13 posted on 01/04/2013 12:54:34 PM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Gaffer
Excellent. There is no discussion on the 2nd Amendment, period. The PROBLEM is that children get no DISCIPLINE in the schools and rarely at home. Until THAT changes, violence and FEARLESS, UNCHECKED BEHAVIOR continues. Put some MEN in the schools.. 100% estrogen 'father figures' all the time for boys ain't cuttin' it.

Absence of discipline of children is the problem. ABSOLUTELY.

19 posted on 01/04/2013 1:39:36 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Gaffer

The number one argument is the Second Amendment, period.


Amen, brother. The time to chew the fat over this issue is long past. This is the line in the sand. We need to tell the dictators that this is it. The Second Amendment is clear on its face. They either stop their attack on the Second Amendment or accept the consequences. The incremental destruction of the Constitution has to stop somewhere, so let it be the Second Amendment.


21 posted on 01/04/2013 1:43:01 PM PST by iontheball
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To: Gaffer
Absolutely! I have no argument for my RKBA I have a position and it's non-negotiable.

Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Don't like my position?

MOLON LAVE!

22 posted on 01/04/2013 1:48:53 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Gaffer
From Federalist Paper 46:
Extravagant as the supposition is, let it however be made. Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; still it would not be going too far to say, that the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops. Those who are best acquainted with the last successful resistance of this country against the British arms, will be most inclined to deny the possibility of it. Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to possess the additional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who could collect the national will and direct the national force, and of officers appointed out of the militia, by these governments, and attached both to them and to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that the throne of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned in spite of the legions which surround it. Let us not insult the free and gallant citizens of America with the suspicion, that they would be less able to defend the rights of which they would be in actual possession, than the debased subjects of arbitrary power would be to rescue theirs from the hands of their oppressors.

30 posted on 01/05/2013 9:01:35 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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